sakana_kid
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I was thinking of getting back on quads after surfing thrusters for the last few years. I remember having more fun on quads due to the speed and looseness. At the time I wanted to be able to get more square off the bottom turn and switched. What you guys riding?
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jkb
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Try a Lost Stealth. Good as either a quad or thruster. I love mine.
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kooky
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Awesome choice. I have a FireWire spitfire (I know plenty of FW haters here, keep it on a different thread) and wanted a board that was durable and I could travel with. Was very interested in the FW lost stealth and spitfire. On CL a spit came up first in my size so I grabbed it and absolutely love it!!!! Btw, the dims on the lost site for the Stealth in PU and the dims on my Spitfire are exactly the same, while the FW version is a little smaller. Balance point (width) is in the exact location as well, and outline is very very similar.
Top to bottom I think Lost fits my surfing better than any other big brand (tried CI for a long time as well and just never really connected with them, never should have sold my SD2 to get a Flyer). Really would like to try the Motivator in a slightly shorter length ad well. Just never can find them on CL.
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finboy3
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The Stretch F4 with a pulled swallow. Easily my favorite. It actually pumps up speed like a thruster, just way looser and faster. Will quickly improve your surfing.
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Oceanslide
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Von Sol Comet and Hornet. Best shortboard hybrids I've had
and both work in a very wide range of conditions.
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finboy3
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those Von Sols are NOTHING like a Stretch quad, the forming requiring far less rider input, blah blah. No comparison. See Nathan Fletcher's surfing.
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retodd
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dont own a hybrid so no comment
My 6-1 swallow tail blur is BY FAR the best quad hpsb i have ever surfed
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Oceanslide
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You forgot to add "IMO".
I've had a Stretch quad. For me, VS hands-down. IMO. 
Not that the Stretch wasn't a good board.
Different strokes...
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those Von Sols are NOTHING like a Stretch quad, the forming requiring far less rider input, blah blah. No comparison. See Nathan Fletcher's surfing.
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FresnoRipper
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Roberts Diamond Fish 
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ifallalot
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Any good shortboard will work as either a quad or a thruster depending on finbox placement and fins
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Greg Griffin
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Boards designed and made by shapers are nice 
Old school stuff.
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I own one of these from 2008, and i NEVER get to use anymore cuz i was like 20 pounds over at the time so is big,,,6'3,,,,been thinking ill use it when it ets big,,but now i guess i should just sell it and get something ill use more often.
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A wide tailed quad with fins on the rail is going to fly in summer mush and be loose as a goose in a caboose (sorry, I have 3 and 5 yr olds).
My coil m80 was the fastest, loosest board I've ever owned.
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finboy3
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I was way behind the times, so the Stretch is my first EPS board--what a revelation for the big guys. All the float without the bloat.
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Greg Griffin
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Hybrid +
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finboy3
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I think it's how you wanna surf. The F4 is a more performance board than the VS. That's a fact. Longboarders like longboards cause that's how they surf. Fish riders...same thing. Ride what you want, of course, but these two shapes are apples/oranges, for sure.
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finboy3
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Greg, I have a Steve Seebold quad fish that we modeled on a DVS shape. It has just a very subtle concave thoughout. Is this how you did the bottom on this shape? I will never sell it!
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sakana_kid
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Lotsa good stuff here. It seems like most of these quads are finned with the rears closer to the stringer. I understand that makes it surf more like a thruster without sacrificing quad speed. Greg's fins are much closer to the rail which should keep it feeling looser and faster correct?
Retodd- you prefer the blur as a quad?
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retodd
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yes , i surf it a a quad 90% of the time
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Oceanslide
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finboy3
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yes, some boards are more high performance than others. But like I said, folks find what suits their style. The F4 is unlike any VS and will handle waves that I would never wanna try, yet will kill it in small surf as well. The R&D is well-documented, going back to Cole/Fletcher; there is NO higher performing quad than the F4. See Bruce Irons at Pipe last year. NO.
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Doent U knoew der is no haigher preformants scurfer den kewrry scraterr!?!
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finboy3
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no, all kidding aside, Fletcher's quad surfing comes from another dimension. Maybe not for everyone, but certainly awe inspiring.
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sakana_kid
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I loved the Stretch Magnet. It's the stubby version of the F4.
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Greg Griffin
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These side fins are at 1" off the rail.
This is because the board is made to be a 5 fin as well where the side fins work best at 1" off the rail.
My 4 fins work best at 1" - 1 1/8 " off the rail
Once you put them say 1 1/2" in the outer fin comes into play and makes the fins way less efficient and closer to a thruster.
Thrusters are still the best overall design and these rail finned boards are exciting to ride.
Lots of room for both.
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finboy3
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Strange thing, but I find it so much easier to keep my back foot in the pad on this particular quad. You must've been talking fins with Stretch recently, as it sounds as if you guys reached the same conclusion on fin placement.
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Love my Stretch/Fletcher Quads an' Pugskate.
But, I've been so stock'd(sic) on Mr.Buzz, I can barely
contain myself.
Every session is a blast!!!
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Firewire Dominator is a great 5-fin option, has a lot of volume in the nose and you can still throw the tail, I surf it as a 5'10 and I'm about 6'1 175 LBS. Gives me enough flotation to catch anything.
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bigduke6
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Better yet Paul… when are you selling me that J.Ho ?????
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rbrown
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I only surf boards shaped, surfed and built by Surfers! Some people get the wrong ideas about some boards based on a limited source of knowledge and a lack of understanding. If you can't ride what you sell get a job. If you can't surf what you shape get a job. The best quad shortboard in my quiver is my personal 5' 11" VS Hornet. Hands down a true keeper. I've surfed it in dub overhead Trestles to 3' Sano. I have sat back long enough and read so much crap on design here. Time to come out of the shaping room and talk about something I do know. Greg we share a passion for design and have been at this game for a long flipping time.
Time to go play on my new longboard. Its glassy and 1 to 3.
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Yay
Post some pics , I know you got them .
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retodd
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u all knew i was gonna post this. it just works better than everything else, for me 
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u all knew i was gonna post this. it just works better than everything else, for me
Whoa, new board? Never seen that before!
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rbrown
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I will as I see needed. This board surfs everything I have put her through.
She is 5'11" x 19 1/2 x 2 7/16 with a thinned out rail sporting a thumb tail. I like rounded tails. Smooth lines with natural curves. Keeping it simple I guess.
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ghostshaper
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I will as I see needed. This board surfs everything I have put her through.
She is 5'11" x 19 1/2 x 2 7/16 with a thinned out rail sporting a thumb tail. I like rounded tails. Smooth lines with natural curves. Keeping it simple I guess.
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finboy3
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Is this an oblique jab at Stretch 'cause his arm's jacked-up? How can one have the wrong ideas about a board that is so clearly superior? Everyone knows the design history of the F4, especially Cole's original collaboration with Fletcher. Now VS is using deck channels and a host of other borrowed ideas. So what? I'm just stoked to be riding a classic quad design that clearly set the standard and continues to set the standard for quad performance surfing.
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ghostshaper
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Not at Stretch. You should probably edit your post.
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finboy3
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oh, figures I misunderstood. But pretty funny how I got hip to the F4. Turtle from the movie North Shore has one. He surfs at spot where I surf alot. He surfs really well, actually! Said it was his favorite board. So I was thinking about it for a few months. Then I saw Bruce Irons ride one at pipe. That did it. Now what to do will all these boards I won't be riding anymore...total quiver killer.
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MACSAN
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I only surf boards shaped, surfed and built by Surfers! Some people get the wrong ideas about some boards based on a limited source of knowledge and a lack of understanding. If you can't ride what you sell get a job. If you can't surf what you shape get a job.
I can see how this could be your preference and I respect that; however, I believe it is the shaper's ability to take rider input (either from self or team) and incorporate it into design that makes for better boards for a particular rider... I say for a particular rider because "better board" can also be a matter of rider perception. What works for one surfer may not necessarily work for all.
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Greg Griffin
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If a shaper has never done a floater , roundhouse cutback, tail slide, etc, there is no feed back that will make them understand what is going on when doing such things.
Then there are shapers that surf so well that nothing matters - it all works for them .
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laidback
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I only surf boards shaped, surfed and built by Surfers! Some people get the wrong ideas about some boards based on a limited source of knowledge and a lack of understanding. If you can't ride what you sell get a job. If you can't surf what you shape get a job. The best quad shortboard in my quiver is my personal 5' 11" VS Hornet. Hands down a true keeper. I've surfed it in dub overhead Trestles to 3' Sano. I have sat back long enough and read so much crap on design here. Time to come out of the shaping room and talk about something I do know. Greg we share a passion for design and have been at this game for a long flipping time.
Time to go play on my new longboard. Its glassy and 1 to 3.
dude ur so rad
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MACSAN
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If a shaper has never done a floater , roundhouse cutback, tail slide, etc, there is no feed back that will make them understand what is going on when doing such things.
I can see that. I guess I was thinking a minimum amount of skill would help you relate to what the surfer was feeling even if it is being performed at a much higher level.
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Retropete
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I only surf boards shaped, surfed and built by Surfers! Some people get the wrong ideas about some boards based on a limited source of knowledge and a lack of understanding. If you can't ride what you sell get a job. If you can't surf what you shape get a job. The best quad shortboard in my quiver is my personal 5' 11" VS Hornet. Hands down a true keeper. I've surfed it in dub overhead Trestles to 3' Sano. I have sat back long enough and read so much crap on design here. Time to come out of the shaping room and talk about something I do know. Greg we share a passion for design and have been at this game for a long flipping time.
Time to go play on my new longboard. Its glassy and 1 to 3.
So this VS is shaped by hand?
No shaping machine involved?
BTW I know Dick Van Straalen doesn't ride any of the fish, surf skates, shorter single fin boards he handshapes from start to finish himself.
He only rides 8 and 9' carbon/eps all rounders and an epoxy/eps prone board due to bad hips.
Doubt you'd tell him to "get a job".
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Rob is a really good guy , hard worker , complete board builder in Oceanside.
Proud father etc.
He might have had a bad day and I hope he posts up his work .
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Retropete
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So do I.
Thats what I come here for.
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CraigGriff
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I only surf boards shaped, surfed and built by Surfers! Some people get the wrong ideas about some boards based on a limited source of knowledge and a lack of understanding. If you can't ride what you sell get a job. If you can't surf what you shape get a job. The best quad shortboard in my quiver is my personal 5' 11" VS Hornet. Hands down a true keeper. I've surfed it in dub overhead Trestles to 3' Sano. I have sat back long enough and read so much crap on design here. Time to come out of the shaping room and talk about something I do know. Greg we share a passion for design and have been at this game for a long flipping time.
Time to go play on my new longboard. Its glassy and 1 to 3.
incoherent pissy shapers ruined surfing 
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rbrown
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Well, what a way to start a posting trend. As far as Stretch designs I have been influenced by his designs in every board I've worked on for the past 8 years or so. I like his flat entry with a little flip funneled into the fins. Then exiting the right amount of tail flip. The deck channels have been around a long time. Cole and Stretch both got into the groove and made it a standard look for some boards designs. Personally I love the grab you get with channels and they are lots stronger with an added bit of spring when dealing with eps. Kind of like a dampener between to much and not enough pop out of thin epoxy boards.
I hope nobody took offense to my comment about getting a job. That was a crack on a guy I worked for once who was pretty big but knew nothing about building boards was a poser could shape but couldn't even surf!
I mean he's not the only one I ever worked with. You cant pretend to be something you're not.
Like with Sean who has more grasp on board design with an open mind to new and functional ideas I ever worked with. It's his designs and the skills to create feed back based on hands on surfing at a level way above average. I just try and make thing look sexy to the eye.
Designing is the ability to work within a box but live outside it. The Shadow was really the most out of the box design that works because Sean took his idea and made it happen. He shaped it and is still the master program. I just make it sexy. We work together because we visualize things the same. Modern ideas foiled into retro rockets. Which is what I have always liked.
So anyway as for the post it was asking my favorite Quad and you all know that answer. The best is the Hornet I'm not trying to be arrogant for me it is. So far anyway.
PS Twinzers rock. Just finshed fixing broke fin on my new one. Pier close encounter? I do believe the future we will see more Twinzer shortboard designs. If your thinking quad you may want to think about Twinzers too.
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laidback
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So you're the von sol shaper?
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rbrown
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If a shaper has never done a floater , roundhouse cutback, tail slide, etc, there is no feed back that will make them understand what is going on when doing such things.
Then there are shapers that surf so well that nothing matters - it all works for them .
There is a whole lot of truth to that.
Not that there's not any good shapers who don't surf but when I talk to people some are more concerned about how it looks and then you have those people who want to know how it rides? Well, if you can ride it you can be tell them what it does and how it feels!
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rbrown
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One of them.
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laidback
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One of them.
Welcome to the house of knowitalls
have fun
Right greg?
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rbrown
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It's a small world after all. I have stayed away for all the wrong reasons. I'm not much of a blogger but I do have two cents worth. Sometimes I may even have a bucks worth.
As long as its about a surfboard design I'm interested. If it's about sex, politics or religion I'm not. I have FB for all that.
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bondage?s&m? whats your favorite position?
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I guarantee before I broke my neck I surfed considerably better than you.
None of my f4 design comes from anything Cole and Nathan worked on. The 2 boards are completely different. Ask Nathan. 2 of these boards hang above the shaping rooms in the factory and were both built in the '80's.
Greg Griffin will attest to the fact that in the '80's i shaped quads that are very similar to what i shape today.
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CraigGriff
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im lmao @ lmao @ lmao @ lmao @ u dum dums. this thread is a surfzoo 
oceanslide doesn't surf very well. im lmao @ lmao @ his comments about f4 & VS
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rbrown
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Wow when did I say anyone in particular I was replying to a post about quads. Now people are reading something into nothing.
I've riden a few Stretch and loved them a lot. Then again I ride all kinds of friends boards.
As far as you surfing better then me maybe you could. Great. I never talked about how I surf or you?
Sorry for any misunderstanding that has been made of this.
Waiting for the glass off.
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Retropete
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The thick skinned shapers seem to handle this forum well.
Or lunatic fringe nut jobs like Roy who thrive on baiting all and sundry and posting spam video of wooden barges ridden by said lunatic while going straight in knee high waves.
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I'll be (and have been) the first to tell anyone I don't surf
very well. But I certainly don't have a classy troll like you
that's been created for the sole purpose of flinging crap
at others. And I never said anything negative about Stretch
boards...although you probably know that. The thread was
started asking people's OPINIONS about their favorite quad
shortboard/hybrids. Big difference between OPINION and fact.
Seems pretty obvious, but apparently not so.
Stretch...did you even read rbrown's comments about how he
regards your boards? I don't seen where the confusion there
comes from??
It seems many are reading something completely different
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finboy3
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Haha! I've surfed many a quad, from a Pavel to a McKee, and the F4 is the high-performance quad standard, no question. Where Pavel saw the quad as the logical end of low-aspect twins, you saw the quad as the logical end of the thruster. Thus, you have two types of quads: the quad fish and the quad shortboard.
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Haha! I've surfed many a quad, from a Pavel to a McKee, and the F4 is the high-performance quad standard, no question. Where Pavel saw the quad as the logical end of low-aspect twins, you saw the quad as the logical end of the thruster. Thus, you have two types of quads: the quad fish and the quad shortboard.
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finboy3
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As long as we're clear that there is an objective standard for high-performance surfing, and it's easy to see that it happens on certain types of equipment. VS is great gear for average surfers. Stretch is great gear for insane pros and average surfers. Big difference in experience with the planer.
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rbrown
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I'm surprised as much as you. I'm not here to get in a diatribe the first day.
I come with over 40 years of board building and almost 50 years of surfing. Hell I may even know how to fix my dings on my own.
I come in peace. if I may quote Greg
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one things for sure, you're off to a roaring start
good to see you post rbrown
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I'd trade all this erudition for a good south swell about now.
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kooky
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I had a stretch F4 and absolutely loved that board as a performance quad (not a fishy quad). I thought this thread was about 5 fin boards "convertibles"? when I was reducing my quiver size just in the last month or so, I wanted to sell my F4 and 2 other boards (one of them was a thruster) and get a 5 fin board to replace the 3 boards. That's when I went looking for a Lost Stealth FW, or a FW Spitfire. Ended up finding the spitfire in my dims and grabbed it. So far, like it just as much as my F4, in quad configuration.
If this thread started asking about a 4 fin, HP quad, the F4 has to be among the top of the list. Can also be ridden slightly shorter and thinner because the rocker is so flat and the thing is so dang fast. I also liked the deck channels, something I wish more people would do, but would probably be looked at as "copycats" if they did.
What is the story behind the Stretch F4 and the similar version that Cole sells? I know that Fletcher has to be the common denominator, but is there anything deeper than that?
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Joey and all.
CraigGriff is part of the mentality here that took Hawaii off the map as design leaders 20 years ago.
CraigGriff , Craig and I are Facebook friends.
I am honored to have such recognition from you.
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finboy3
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He is the biggest board salesman on the board, offering his opinion. Lots of takers.
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sakana_kid
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Thank you all for the different design suggestions and info. The best quad that I've ridden to date was the Stretch Magnet. My search for a board that will allow me to surf better as I get older and slower continues.
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Excellent.
Since this is going so well, how about discussing how you all feel about the aborting of gay Republican fetuses by Obama as part of his stem cell fund-raiser to benefit homeless Islamic pit bulls?
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Excellent.
Since this is going so well, how about discussing how you all feel about the aborting of gay Republican fetuses by Obama as part of his stem cell fund-raiser to benefit homeless Islamic pit bulls?
What if KHLOE rode a QUAD with NIKE and TARGET stickers in BRAZIL???
-shackwell OUT!
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Pissbiscuit
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I'm riding a lost shark quad for this; I have a ton of fun on it. Some dump-n-run coverage what with Debbie yesterday, but I never did get open. Now the regular foots, on the other hand...
I'd love to try a correctly sized stealth and F4 among others.
In unrelated news, per finboy's assertions, we now know that the old bald Brevardvark who just won $75k torching the highest performance surfers in the world did so on what I will assume is the second best quad design at initating motions of rippage.
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finboy3
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he'll just have to make do then, on his sub-par spaceship.
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Thank you all for the different design suggestions and info. The best quad that I've ridden to date was the Stretch Magnet. My search for a board that will allow me to surf better as I get older and slower continues.
My friend left a "too big" Eric Arakawa Bandit at my house. For my height/weight/ability supposedly I should be riding it 4" shorter but damn! It's fun!
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Basswave
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Great thread...
There are a ton of great quad shortboard/hybrids on the market as there are good shapers out there. (There is also ton I would love to have).
For me my personal preference is the Rusty's 'Dwart' and 'Catfish'.
Why: They tend to have a lot of float up front I would ride the Dwart where one would use a fish...The Catfish has some fish-like qualities to it (wide tail shortboard with 80s' volume and front foil, that works for me).
It just so happens to be the label/shaping design that works for me the best at this time, and I cannot put a finger on all the reasons why, (other then some of the obvious ones).
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In unrelated news, per finboy's assertions, we now know that the old bald Brevardvark who just won $75k torching the highest performance surfers in the world did so on what I will assume is the second best quad design at initating motions of rippage.
I'd still like to know why the nubster fin disappeared...?
Clearly, K11(+1) had zero need for it in Tahiti.
Maybe I just answered my on query?
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retodd
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In unrelated news, per finboy's assertions, we now know that the old bald Brevardvark who just won $75k torching the highest performance surfers in the world did so on what I will assume is the second best quad design at initating motions of rippage.
I'd still like to know why the nubster fin disappeared...?
Clearly, K11(+1) had zero need for it in Tahiti.
Maybe I just answered my on query?
Bigger flat sided rears and prolly tweaked toe/cant. Simon , Kelly , and glasser might have a better answer
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finboy3
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My CI Semi-Pro has a different outline than the F4, with its wide point forward, but both boards have a deep single concave and very similar nose and tail rockers. I dare say the Semi-pro with a swallow tail is darn close to the F4. Very similar fin placement. 50/50 rails up front. Both boards were "designed" by pro surfers with top shapers. Both boards work in small and scary conditions. The CI has a domed deck, which may suit Kelly's surfing somehow. At the end of the day, these boards share most of the important performance variables.
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finboy3
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Let's just say deciding which one to surf is a good problem to have.
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Greg Griffin
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This was my 6'3" on the right.
John on the left.
Brian on the right.
Brian broke this last winter at Lanis
He loved it , and many commented on it.
Brian is a member of the Vagos here .
This makes My Design Correct !!
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finboy3
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In other words, Brian gets whatever waves he wants...
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He does well .
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bammbamm808
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My new 5'10" eps/resinx. Haven't kept a thruster for more than a week in 7 years. All quads for me. Currently making my own, but occasionally pick one up from a real shaper. Properly setup, which isn't easy, nothing comes close for me. Like butta!
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sakana_kid
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Bamm I know you only shape for yourself, but whose boards to do pattern yours after? Fin placement wise? I know you're surfing the Country on a quad so I'm sure they work well in a wide ranges of wave size/conditions.
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In other words, Brian gets whatever waves he wants...
and if you happen to mistakenly get in his way he pins you down on the sand and gives you a very painful neck tattoo...if he's in a good mood that day.
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Really love this iconic DVS style quadfish. Can handle overhead waves, but really its sweet spot is 2-3 ft BU. 
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Bamm I know you only shape for yourself, but whose boards to do pattern yours after? Fin placement wise? I know you're surfing the Country on a quad so I'm sure they work well in a wide ranges of wave size/conditions.
Started with Martial Crum/Critters quads, which I was on for a couple of years. I wanted to go in a different direction, so I started up the hobby after 10 years of not making myself a board. Superficially modern, low volume hpsb's, but upon closer examination, some important differences. Fin setups are what works with the shapes, trailers closer to the rail than most are doing. Making my own fins, cause I don't like any of the available sets. Using Lokbox, cause being able to move your fins rocks. I constantly trade boards with people, and my own stuff just works better for me than anything else. Surfing better at 47 than I expected to, but still not as well as I would likew
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bondage?s&m? whats your favorite position?
Anything with Bridgit Powers 
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backset
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Good discussion!
My favorite quad / hybrid for many years has been a custom bat tail quad hand shaped by the late Harold Iggy.. went super in a wide variety of conditions.
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sozzle
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this one, why? i've had the best wave riding experiences of my 25 year surfing life on it, more hold drive and manoeuvrability than i actually thought was possible at that speed, 5'7".
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The Blend model I got from Wayne Okamoto at Oakfoils has been the most positive board I have ridden. 6' x 21" x 2.6"
I'm still playing with fin setups, but so far stretch fronts with pivot rears are working soooo well I just don;t want to change. But a Bonzer 6 1/2 " single fin has been fun but I really want some more wave power to try it in. I'm going to be building some sidebites to go for a widowmaker setup soon as well.
But so far, Quads FTW!!
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Alex_AJ
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The Blend model I got from Wayne Okamoto at Oakfoils has been the most positive board I have ridden. 6' x 21" x 2.6"
I'm still playing with fin setups, but so far stretch fronts with pivot rears are working soooo well I just don;t want to change. But a Bonzer 6 1/2 " single fin has been fun but I really want some more wave power to try it in. I'm going to be building some sidebites to go for a widowmaker setup soon as well.
But so far, Quads FTW!!
This is still the best looking Blend out there FruitBison (IMO). Hey, I know your dims by following Wayne's blog and this one seems way less volume than you usually get. I'm on the bigger/less in shape side (not saying that you are!  ) , so that's pretty interesting to see that this design carries a lot of float in a somewhat small package. Cheers!
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Fruitbison
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This is still the best looking Blend out there FruitBison (IMO). Hey, I know your dims by following Wayne's blog and this one seems way less volume than you usually get. I'm on the bigger/less in shape side (not saying that you are! ) , so that's pretty interesting to see that this design carries a lot of float in a somewhat small package. Cheers!
Thanks Alex, I'm probably a much more lazy ass paddler than most on the erBB, apart from facing down the Winter Walls of Death, so this shape does like a little more push than my usual quad fish. Dredging beach breaks a speciality, but I'd like to take it some reef and points soon.
After posting a board that was 2.6" thick I thought PopOutCop would bring in his partner FoamDetective to take me down....
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sakana_kid
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Hybrid +
Decided to go for something like this. Cheater quad is one of the only models I haven't tried yet. To Felix tail or not is the question...
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dksurf
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Von Sol shadow 5'10" stilletto quads with nubster really fun board 
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donniedarko
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This was my 6'3" on the right.
John on the left.
Brian on the right.
Brian broke this last winter at Lanis
He loved it , and many commented on it.
Brian is a member of the Vagos here .
This makes My Design Correct !!
How does mentioning your guy being a goon in biker gang relevant to the thread.
I have friends & train with some donkeys from the local chapter here in Venice with the Vagos, my post any more relevant...? score: ego +1 erbb, members -1
Back on topic: Cole Nathan template 6'1" 20.15 x 2.5 x no deck handles, eps, Future boxes, modified Bruce Mckee fin placement, probably best board Ive ever had
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Greg Griffin
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I can get you some blood pressure pills.
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Greg Griffin
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How does mentioning your guy being a goon in biker gang relevant to the thread.
Like I said and you read.
This makes My Design Correct!!
Which was in fun as you know.
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echobch
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Im really liking my new Lost mini-driver set up like a quad right now. Really fun board. Works great as a thruster too.
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averagejoe
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i love quads
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Mr.Buzz.
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Havoc
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...lost bottom feeder. tomo nano. #fact
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#fact
Sorry...no offense to either you or DD, but I've seen this
posted a bunch of times and assume it's Twittard-related.
But no, it's an opinion. Valid, maybe, but not in any way
a fact.
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Excellent.
Since this is going so well, how about discussing how you all feel about the aborting of gay Republican fetuses by Obama as part of his stem cell fund-raiser to benefit homeless Islamic pit bulls?
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Havoc
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#vonfact
Sorry...no offense to either you or DD, but I've seen this
posted a bunch of times and assume it's Twittard-related.
But no, it's an opinion. Valid, maybe, but not in any way
a fact.
sorry J, fixed it for you!
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saw that coming 1 mile away
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