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Looks like these guys were serious... I dont understand why the building process isnt described, so it makes me think how is it possible that over 30 pieces are needed to create one of these.
I almost have a feeling these are popouts, the price for such an unknown process is shady at best
Looks like these guys were serious... I dont understand why the building process isnt described, so it makes me think how is it possible that over 30 pieces are needed to create one of these.
I almost have a feeling these are popouts, the price for such an unknown process is shady at best
the guy knows his stuff but kind of comes off as yet another "i've got the magic recipe" claim
"baffle them with bullshit". <=====if you need a marketing hook. This always works. Just look at most of surf mag ads......they assume surfers are idiots and big words will win the day and $$$$$$ Out of the pockets of the consumers......
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The owner of lib tech is like a mad scientist. Smart guy, eccentric with some great ideas. My friend ordered one. I'll kidnap it and give it a spin and report back. I wouldn't bash on it until someone has tried it. Their snowboards are great, hopefully the surfboards are as well. Cool tech IMO.
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Phil Edwards status
Reged: 01/16/06
Posts: 7166
Loc: Carlsbad
What I find interesting about their program is that they do their own fins and leashplugs and finboxes. I dunno if they have any interest in selling those finboxes but I'd sure like to try them out.
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Michael Peterson status
Reged: 12/16/10
Posts: 1829
Loc: Cabo, Mexico
Quote: the boards look f-in rad, would love to try one, but all the smokescreen high-tech mumbo jumbo code words are lame.
I find them surprisingly ugly, the outlines could use some refinement. Their concaved decks are weird as hell too. However, I too would like to try them.
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Tom Curren status
Reged: 09/26/05
Posts: 11646
Loc: Tower 13
i'm definitely interested in theses because I really really like the way there snowboards ride and they are one of the few snowboard manufacturers that have not outsourced to Asia. Just an all around good company to support.
And if they are really this ding resistant i would be pretty stoked. They have always been a leader in snowboard technology but they definitely are not the most durable snowboards. Have to wait and see.
My brother was lent one of these to try. It was a flyer type shape. I felt it it was really heavy and really strong- couldn't put a pressure dent in it. He said it was fast but really stiff. Looked cool though...
Hardly invented, not original, just a new application of a derivitive PU foam. Ill see the shapes soon
While the links you've posted do not show the exact foam used on the Lib boards, your assumption is correct...
The bluish honeycomb lines you see on the board are the individual sections of foam separated by a void or manufactured honeycomb scrim cut... Those honeycomb voids are filled to their maximum depth with flexible infusion epoxy resin... That;s the bluish green lines you see.... That maybe where the extra weight is incurred.. This results in the added ( claimed) strength of the skins but at a slight weight penalty..
With further tweaks this construction might be outstanding..
Nothing like making fun of your potential customers. What a joke, trying way too hard to be cool or stupid, but whatever it was, it doesn't come across well.
Wow, what a name dropper. Trying to look legit based on association, takes about all the guys he has worked with in the past but not much has seemed to materialize, he really doesn't seem to be someone who has been in the surf industry or deals with surfers much just seems like he is trying way too hard but the terminology doesnt seem to match the way I hear shapers speak.
Looks like these guys were serious... I dont understand why the building process isnt described, so it makes me think how is it possible that over 30 pieces are needed to create one of these.
I almost have a feeling these are popouts, the price for such an unknown process is shady at best
the guy knows his stuff but kind of comes off as yet another "i've got the magic recipe" claim <object width="480" height="360"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/cND5EVoLJMM?version=3&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/cND5EVoLJMM?version=3&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="480" height="360" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>
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Gerry Lopez status
Reged: 02/23/09
Posts: 964
Their sizes are all no good to me, kinda shows who they're marketing the boards at... And why no 5fin setups???? shame as an undingable board is very appealing, although I can make that my self with lots of glass and a light core and still be waaaay lighter than a shiny 6oz fish.
Are you saying that advert vid is not a realistic representation of mericans/island folk? I've never actually met any in real life though so only have the documentaries point break/ north shore to go on.
I looked at them today. Very strange foils and rockers. Has to be seen to understand.
Build looks bomber. They shipped the boards in boxes with no packaging, boards punched through the boxes with little damage. The finish on the boards is ok. As pictured youll note if you can the lamination & board is off line. Seems these boards are bagged. Seen some FW's the same messed up QC.
Only board I liked was the waveskate looking one. The fin boxes are cool but the fact they dont accept FUT fins is a bummer. The concave decks are cool but also strange, Ive had a few and they go ok but they are different. The texalium rail is cool, and I suppose the boards are very strong.
Boards looked rushed but Ill cut them slack as they just realeased and the product will clean up over time. Would I buy one? Probably not til they get refined. Its an unproven quantity and materials dont mean shvt if the shape sucks.
Lastly the whole logo bullshvt on the bottom of the boards are pretty boo boo. These aint snowboards, and they look obnoxious and busy.
Also almost no single concave on any of the boards. Look 80's style... Kind of odd
I hope to try one soon, follow up with my thoughts then
The lam here if you can tell is messed up. The hot coat looks 1-3mm off on the right then left like the board was shifted when bagged for lam.
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Billy Hamilton status
Reged: 07/07/10
Posts: 1704
Loc: No. LA County
What's the purpose of that big long fin box if it doesn't take futures? Using that thing on FCS fins is going to cause all kinds of gaps and problems.
I may swing by the shop to check 'em out...but the pics make the foiling look scary.
Quote: I looked at them today. Very strange foils and rockers. Has to be seen to understand.
Build looks bomber. They shipped the boards in boxes with no packaging, boards punched through the boxes with little damage. The finish on the boards is ok. As pictured youll note if you can the lamination & board is off line. Seems these boards are bagged. Seen some FW's the same messed up QC.
Only board I liked was the waveskate looking one. The fin boxes are cool but the fact they dont accept FUT fins is a bummer. The concave decks are cool but also strange, Ive had a few and they go ok but they are different. The texalium rail is cool, and I suppose the boards are very strong.
Boards looked rushed but Ill cut them slack as they just realeased and the product will clean up over time. Would I buy one? Probably not til they get refined. Its an unproven quantity and materials dont mean shvt if the shape sucks.
Lastly the whole logo bullshvt on the bottom of the boards are pretty boo boo. These aint snowboards, and they look obnoxious and busy.
Also almost no single concave on any of the boards. Look 80's style... Kind of odd
I hope to try one soon, follow up with my thoughts then
The lam here if you can tell is messed up. The hot coat looks 1-3mm off on the right then left like the board was shifted when bagged for lam.
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