UggaBugga
Grom
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WTF??
They've taken down at least 2 related threads. the "Private surf trip and you're not invited" thread and the letters thread by Bassy. Whats going on here?
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Tiny Universe
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an email I received today:
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Dear sponsors/supporters of the Surfline ´Goodwill´ Tour,
On the 25th of this month (June), two friends and I arrived in Barra de la Cruz on a much anticipated surf trip after vigorous planning and hard work. There was also the obvious financial burden in which one experiences when travelling all the way from Australia. As my friends had been in Mexico for a week prior to my arrival, they had surfed the waves of La Jolla just as any travelling surfer would. However, when they returned with myself on the 25th of June, we were greeted by a sign to the entrance indicating that there would be a competition taking place for the next five days and that only professional surfers had exclusive access to the waves. This sign was NOT up when they were surfing the week before (thus, we would not have bothered travelling there to surf). We were later informed by several sources (who live in the village) that the sign was erected TWO days before the event. Firstly I ask you, how does one plan their international surf trip with two days notice? It also seemed quite a coincidence that the ´Goodwill´ tour took place at the same time as the best swell of the season was upon us. As we had already booked and paid for our accommodation (that was actually closer to the beach than where the sign was posted), we decided that we would get up before first light and get a surf in before the competition commenced (as with any professional surf competition, with clear intentions of heading in when competition began). Upon our arrival to the beach, we saw the partially assembled tents in which had also been there the day before. We also encountered approximately five mexicans that were taping off the area as you walked towards the point to paddle out. There were also a few people in the water, with the waves being flawless. As we started walking towards the point we were greeted by two mexicans that could not speak english and were indicating (with hand gestures) that we could not enter the ´site´. We asked if any of the organisers of the event were present, and clearly there wasn´t. Not wanting to enter the site, we decided that we would paddle from the beach out to the point until someone from administration had arrived. Clearly, we were not causing any problems as there were only a few fellow ´gringos´out there surfing. Soon after reaching the line-up, we noticed two Mexicans on the point screaming at us. Soon after, we noticed that rocks were being thrown at us from the cliff by both hands and sling-shots. Not knowing what was going on, the only choice we had was to hang around on the shoulder and wait for someone to paddle out and tell us what the problem was (obviously not paddling to the beach as we were unsure of what would have awaited us there). With rocks the size of tennis balls being launched at us from some distance and height, we knew that if one should hit us in the head it would have surely killed us. Soon after, I was unlucky enough to have a rock skim my leg and cause me some minor damage. After approxiamtely 20 mintues (and without catching a single wave), three Mexicans paddled out and told us that we should paddle in. Soon after, we paddled into the beach to find out what the problem was. Still, no apparent organisers of the event were present. However, we did notice that Mike Parsons was sitting on the beach inside the taped off area. My friend and I then approached him to find out what the problem was and why we couldn´t surf before the so-called ´contest´as no one was there, nor was anyone surfing. He swiftly told us that he was on holidays and had absolutely nothing to do with the ´Goodwill´tour. He also said that he would NOT be surfing. It seems funny now that after reading surflines website that Mike Parsons was one of the 15 VIP´s of the event (The Surfline Goodwill Tour: Mexico will have fifteen VIP participants, a few additional pros (including Brad Gerlach, Mike Parsons - http://www.surfline.com/surfnews/surfwire.cfm?id=9761). Whilst talking to Mr Parsons, we heard screaming from up the beach. It was now apparent that our friend had paddled in further down the beach away from the taped off area. As we looked, it was clear to us that he was being attacked by a group of mexican men. We sprinted up the beach to see what and why this was happening, only to be greeted by a group of Mexican men armed with pieces of wood and rope. They were hitting my friend, trying to take his board, and tie him up. Obviously, we assisted our friend and tried to deter the attackers. Although outside of the taped area and making it clear that we were leaving, they continued to hit our boards and our persons. This continued for sometime without ANY retaliation. We then continued to swiftly make up our way up the beach and towards our accommodation, with three severely damaged boards, physical abuse, and extreme anxiety. As we walked up the road towards our accommodation we noticed a car coming down the road. It was noticable that in it was Sean Collins, the ´organiser´ of the event. We asked him why this brutality had taken place and also why we could not surf. Obnoxiously, his response was ¨What did you do when when Rip Curl were here?¨. Being a so-called ´Goodwill´ tour, this answer was clearly not what we were expecting. He then continued towards the beach. Approximately three hours later we spoke to Kim, one of the official translators for the event, who informed us that the men who threw rocks at us and assaulted us were working directly for Sean Collins, the organiser of the event. He also informed us that we were lucky that we were not kiled - for doing what we all love so dearly - pathetic. Clearly, Sean Collins, along with the sponsors of the event are directly accountable for both the physical and financial damage that was suffered on that particular day, not to mention the reputation of the companies that placed there name on such an event. Furthermore, as far as I was aware, the notion of ´goodwill´is giving, not taking. How can eradicating fellow surfers (including most local surfers from the village) be indicative of such a gesture? Buying exclusive access to a world class wave is obviously taking far more than what is being given. We do not let this occur at waves in America, Australia, and Hawaii, just to name a few, so why should this be able to occur in countries that are less financially fortunate? The exploitation of waves such as Barra is something that should not happen in the present, nor the future. Surfline and fellow sponsors should ´donate´ money directly to the village and continue to let others surf if they feel that they are in need, without taking. I expect that such an incidence should never happen again. I look forward to your reply.
Regards,
Anthony Brown (Australia).
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then this email:
Dear organisers and supporters of the Surfline Goodwill Tour,
I write to you in response to the email I have received from Anthony Brown outlining the treatment he received at the hands of your contest director Sean Collins, and the apathy shown by Billabong sponsored rider Mike Parsons. There are several pretty clear reasons why their treatment is completely unacceptable, firstly of course, the use of violence by the security guards hired by contest director Sean Collins. The responsibility of the actions of those Mexican security guards lies solely with the competition directors and organisers, violence can not be condoned ever, and certainly not when there clearly was no harm what so ever being done to the contest site.
The second and probably the most concerning for surfers the world over is the lack of notification that an event is going to be taking place which limits the use of the break. La Jolla is no longer an underground break. Since the Rip Curl Search exposed it to the world last year it has become a world renowned dream destination. What sort of commitment does it take to get to La Jolla for an Australian surfer? A couple of thousand dollar plane ticket, 20 hours in the plane and more than a few hours on a rickety bus using all the holiday time you get for the year - a big commitment I think you will agree. To officially announce the event on the 14 of May with a waiting period between 29 May to the 10 June, giving two weeks notice is absolute bull s**t. Giving the event the pick of the best 5 day forecasted period between May 29 and June 10 is bull s#$t, to not announce that you have decided not to run the event during its scheduled period is bull s$#t, to announce on the 20 June that the event is to run from the 26 to the 30 of June is just bull s*%t. Trips to La Jolla are planned months in advance, turning up to find a contest site is the last thing any travelling surfer would want to find. I have been to busy surfing (it's been pumping in Sydney for the last month) to have checked what the swell ended up being like in the originally planned period 29 May - 10 June, but I'm guessing it was flat, this leads to my next point.
I'm a little suspicious of the motives of the Goodwill Tour, it seems to me that raising $20 000 for the local community is a rather poor goal, why would you be aiming so low? Why not $100 000 or $200000. You would of course set your goals low if your real motivation is to hire the break for a week and have it exclusively for your self, seems the going price is $20 000. Is Surflines Goodwill Tour really an opportunistic way to gain exclusive use of break for a week for a group of professionals to take photos and gain publicity, seems like it to me. Wait until you forecast a good swell then pay the local community $20 000 and get the place to yourself, you people are s&*t, and this s**t is sticking to all those who have sponsored or been associated with this event.
So congratulations to all those sponsors and associates of the event - Barra Events, Surfline, Billabong, Wavehunters, Quicksilver, Sol Beer, Mexicana Airlines, NSL, HSS, Third Point - You have a great job of selling out the surfing community.
Kindest Regards,
Warren Brewer.
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then this email:
>Dear all,
>Im sitting here in Bali disgusted to the pit of my stomach as how my
>younger brother Anthony was treated at YOUR contest in mexico.
>I was not there but I can assure you my brother is one individual
>who I will stand proud and loud for, he is the most respectful and
>mellow individuals i know and his love for surfing has seen him
>travel the world many times. I have seen hassles in the water
>everyday and its a sad sight but i have never heard of anything like
>this.
>The 'surfline goodwill tour', yeah it sounds great, doing it for
>the cause hey mr. collins? Sure you are, you thug.
>I hope surfline realise just how damaging this could be to your
>company and future events, and i also hope everyone of you feel
>this on a personal level.
>As a fellow surfer I know my brother did nothing wrong.
>A duty of care was not shown (in fact exactly the opposite, you had
>impressionable, naive, poor people carry out such brutal acts that
>could of had them blinded, drown or even killed, all under the
>orders of your contest directors.)
>Now does that sound like a 'goodwill' tour? I think not.
>Whats done is done, All you can do now is redeem your reputations.
>SURFLINE surely doesnt want this matter to go any further.
>My brother and his mates now are in mexico, batterd bodies and
>boards, lost absolutey all faith in surfing and the circus that is
>associated with it.
>I look foward to a reply, yours in good faith,
>Stephen Brown.
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and then this email
As a long time good friend and travelling companion of Anthony Brown I read the below email with a keen interest. One thing I can't figure out is what is happening to surfing and the people involved in it? In Australia, you get muppets on jet skis patrolling the competition areas trying to muscle people out of the water which is expected but throwing rocks at people and attacking them with pieces of wood!? That is beyond the pale and unacceptable . But then you probably wouldnt expect anything less from people such as Sean Collins. I have never met him, I dont know him, nor do I care to but from what Anthony has explained, his attitude is lower than the guts of a sh!thouse rat. Especially taking into consideration the fact that there wasnt anyone in the water and the comp hadnt started and Anthony and his crew had done what they thought was right and got up at the crack of dawn to try and snavel some waves before the event started. Even when they moved further down the beach it wasnt good enough for Collins' breed of Mexican thugs. Whoever organises a marathon doesnt own the road, whoever organises a surf comp doesnt own the surf. When the comp is in full swing, fair enough but before a comp, the waves are anyone's entitlement and when physical abuse and property damage are involved, it certainly shames the industry and those responsible. You can get away with it in a third world country with corrupt law enforcement and it appears Collins has taken advantage of this and let down his fellow surfers.
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#1212540 - 06/28/07 03:33 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
At first i was joking with CCG and everyone else here about these goons having Barra to themselves. I said it was ok and bla bla bla.
I thought the whole thing was a joke.
I still don't believe this kind of crap is going to or has happened. But if it is and has already done so as in the e-mails above.
That is unacceptable and Mr. Collins should have his ass kicked up and down our local Orange County Beaches along with Parsons Gerlach and the rest of the corp sellout monkies involved in this fiasco.
F-ING PATHETIC!
Talk about greedy F&*^%ing pigs.
By the way Bassy, you spelled "Surfline" wrong. Like i'm the one to talk with the way i spell.
Or is this some huge troll and i bit hook line and STINKER?
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SmackDaddy
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Loc: San Diego, CA Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: Scott Bass]
#1212541 - 06/28/07 03:33 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
Surfline just lost another subscriber.
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JJR
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Loc: San Diego California Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: SmackDaddy]
#1212543 - 06/28/07 03:36 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
And just think, they could of got better waves in Peru and not bothered anyone.
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cundh2o
Grom
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#1212544 - 06/28/07 03:39 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
Wow...I for one will not be renewing my subscription in Aug. Wow.
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BoingBoing
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#1212545 - 06/28/07 03:40 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
It's simple. Be good and you're good. Otherwise, risk banishment
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Loc: So. Pasadena, CA Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: Scott Bass]
#1212547 - 06/28/07 03:44 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
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As we started walking towards the point we were greeted by two mexicans that could not speak english and were indicating (with hand gestures) that we could not enter the ´site´.
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Imagine that! 2 mexicans in mexico who don't speak English!
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liplocked
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Loc: Kamanawna Surfit Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: JJR]
#1212550 - 06/28/07 03:46 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
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And just think, they could of got better waves in Peru and not bothered anyone.
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otf
Phil Edwards status
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Loc: clownburg the OC Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: BoingBoing]
#1212551 - 06/28/07 03:47 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
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Termite
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Loc: America Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: SmackDaddy]
#1212553 - 06/28/07 03:48 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
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Surfline just lost another subscriber.
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I canceled mine today also- sent them a letter saying that they suck, basically. I never used it anyways.
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etmo
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#1212554 - 06/28/07 03:49 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
further proof that corporations have no place in surfing
Let's just whore out everything, mmmmmmkay?
this crap always put me in a cynical mood
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liplocked
Phil Edwards status
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Loc: Kamanawna Surfit Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: otf]
#1212555 - 06/28/07 03:50 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
well if this indeed is a troll, its the BEST trolling Ive ever seen here.
This would be the $20,000.00 troll
sadly I dont feel it is, especially with whats been transpiring the last decade, with corp surfing.
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RemyXO
Billy Hamilton status
Reged: 03/12/03
Posts: 1485
Loc: SLO CAL Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: Scott Bass]
#1212556 - 06/28/07 03:50 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
I sure hope the guy that was assaulted on the beach makes an appearance at the Surflie headquarters, complete with baseball bat and goes completely apeshit in Collins' office.
Sean Collins and Surflie has sunk to a new low.
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rice
Kelly Slater status
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#1212559 - 06/28/07 03:56 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
So, the company that has installed camera's throughout the world at spots, creating a new level of crowding and hype for every little swell; THAT company is holding a contest in Mex and hired some security to keep non-invited folk out of the water during the contest? Is that the story?
And this is shocking, how?
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Big_Wave_Dave
Nep status
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Loc: in the bag Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: Scott Bass]
#1212561 - 06/28/07 03:58 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
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Termite
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Posts: 650
Loc: America Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: RemyXO]
#1212563 - 06/28/07 04:00 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
He should hit them in their moneybelt.
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knice
Michael Peterson status
Reged: 12/13/03
Posts: 2852
Loc: knowhere Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: Scott Bass]
#1212565 - 06/28/07 04:05 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
Swell on the way!
$1000 each!
Oh, and someone get that sign up and tell the locals to throw rocks off the point if anyone paddles out!
Geezus, ...
Collins
Parsons
and Gerr?
Did Parsons really lie to Brown's face?
"I'm not surfing."
This is fukking insane.
INSANE!
Collins was planning it around the swell. $20,000 is chickensh!t. Fukkin' "Goodwill" this is not. This is new-age piracy and guess fukkin' what?
The pirates are going to be outnumbered.
Anthony Brown sounds like one of us, no?
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Bonzer5Fin
Michael Peterson status
Reged: 05/09/06
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Loc: Hollywood by the Sea Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: rice]
#1212566 - 06/28/07 04:06 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
This wasn't a contest. It was a corporate outing. Pay the pro's to surf with the CEO's kinda thing, like golfers do all the time, except this was a giant pig fuck. Sean Collins has some splainin to do.
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stu dog
Rabbitt Bartholomew status
Reged: 01/15/03
Posts: 9830
Loc: CA Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: Bonzer5Fin]
#1212576 - 06/28/07 04:19 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
cameras down due to technical difficulty
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Word up!
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corndog
Billy Hamilton status
Reged: 12/27/04
Posts: 1427
Loc: Carlsbad Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: Bonzer5Fin]
#1212577 - 06/28/07 04:21 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
It would be interesting to see what banner ads are still on their site after that bad ass bug hit the windshield and didnt mearly splatter, but blew it out.
How about this trainwreck on the damage control front...
Think how the execs at Nike feel having their logo impaled on the windshield
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Who's Your Daddy
Rabbitt Bartholomew status
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Loc: Carlsbad, California Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: corndog]
#1212581 - 06/28/07 04:24 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
corndog, you're delusional. Do you honestly believe that anyone at Nike even cares? Do you think that anyone outside of this small surfing clan will even pick up on this "story"? LOL
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JuanKerr
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#1212583 - 06/28/07 04:25 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
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Seems like Sean Collins has no problem with rock-throwing...
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corndog
Billy Hamilton status
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Loc: Carlsbad Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: Who's Your Daddy]
#1212591 - 06/28/07 04:29 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
uh, my bad. Nearly forgot, zillion dollar a year monster pondering our thoughts... please hit the time machine and delete previous post Bassy.
Screw this, time for a surf flick to cool the jets. Heck, I will show Goodwill... I buy the first round of drinks and get to have the Salvadorian death squad escort anyone out of the tavern who we don't care for.
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GWS
Duke status
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Loc: Oxtura Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: corndog]
#1212595 - 06/28/07 04:35 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
They even have threads on this over on the Surfline Forums.
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saltydog
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Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: GWS]
#1212598 - 06/28/07 04:38 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
Email I sent
Mr. Collins,
When I initially read your involvment on behlaf of the community in Barra during the RipOFFCurl debacle, I was impressed. I figured you as someone who actually gave a shit as to what happens when a small community becomes a world surf destination. However, it has become apparent, from various different accounts of your so called "goodwill" tour, that not only are you as bad as the greedy RipOFFcurl goons, you may even be worse. I've yet to hear your account of the incidents involved in you and your "tour" paying a token amount to take over a surf spot with brute force. So I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I eagerly await your response, either publicly through your website, or privately on how or why you feel justified making a small ( by you and your sponsors standards) donation, as a guise to privatize a surfspot. Please specify how this isn't elitism and greed, and clarify how this is not setting a ridiculously dangerous precedent?
Anticipating your response,
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ibwahanui
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Loc: san diexico Re: Surfline's Goodwiil Tour - emails I received - [Re: Scott Bass]
#1212602 - 06/28/07 04:42 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
fvckin yuppies killed surfing.
sean collins has killed the magic a surprise swell brings.
i hope the mexicans in la jolla get a nice clinic.
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corndog
Billy Hamilton status
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Loc: Carlsbad Re: Surfline's Goodwiil Tour - emails I received - [Re: Scott Bass]
#1212607 - 06/28/07 04:47 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
It seems funny now that after reading surflines website that Mike Parsons was one of the 15 VIP´s of the event (The Surfline Goodwill Tour: Mexico will have fifteen VIP participants, a few additional pros (including Brad Gerlach, Mike Parsons - http://www.surfline.com/surfnews/surfwire.cfm?id=9761). ...
Seems to have gone missing
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connollyvta
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Re: Surfline's Goodwiil Tour - emails I received - [Re: Scott Bass]
#1212611 - 06/28/07 04:52 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
It was sick and disgusting when Rip Curl pretended to be worried about the financial well-being of the people at this spot (justifying the revelation of Barra to help this "impoversihed" community). We all know it was for purely selfish fincancial reasons (Have the built a clinic or a hospital for the local residents?). Even more disgusting are Sean Collins' actions of actually taking advantage of this poverty to buy local people off who are desperately poor enough to commit acts of violence. I am so truly offended by his actions that I have decided to NOT EVEN CLICK on his website again for fear of appeasing his advertisers. I ALSO MAKE AN OPEN PLEE TO THESE ADVERTISERS TO REMOVE THEIR ADS FROM SURFLINE.COM!!!!!!! The surf industry has walked in the shadow of "bro-dom" for too long. Lest we forget these are now mega corporations hell bent on making a profit off surfing. WE SHOULD HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE!!! How often does any surf company contribute to the local places where they profit off of exotic surf footage? They've got the money. They would argue that their mere presence helps to "inflate" local economies. Are they then entitled to rule over these spots like local lords? When was the last time a mega corporation contributed to your local spot; beach clean-up, or otherwise minor act of decent citizenry? Stairs down to the beach, improved bike path or anything else? These guys are laughing all the way to the bank!!! The pay local surf stars to get photos that advertise your local breaks!!! In the meantime goons like Sean Collins predict swells to the masses then take off and rent their own PRIVATE break. I've got news for everyone (myself included) WE HAVE BEEN SUCKERED!
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Termite
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Loc: America Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: saltydog]
#1212612 - 06/28/07 04:53 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
My letter was similar but with a more proactive tone:
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The world is a small place and I will no doubt run into you somewhere. I will fuck you up as soon as I see you, that's for sure. I'm going to put my arm in your ass elbow deep and punch you so hard in the back of the head that I'll break your fuckin' skull. I hope you're not alone. Your friends can watch and then I'll break their faces next. You got a gun? You better carry it with you all the time because the animals are in the streets and cunts like you get fucked hard and broken up. You better shoot me in the face. The line is drawn in the sand, bitch. I'm on one side, you're on the other. Fuck you.
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otf
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#1212623 - 06/28/07 05:11 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
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My letter was similar but with a more proactive tone:
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The world is a small place and I will no doubt run into you somewhere. I will fuck you up as soon as I see you, that's for sure. I'm going to put my arm in your ass elbow deep and punch you so hard in the back of the head that I'll break your fuckin' skull. I hope you're not alone. You're friends can watch and then I'll break their faces next. You got a gun? You better carry it with you all the time because the animals are in the streets and cunts like you get fucked hard and broken up. You better shoot me in the face. The line is drawn in the sand, bitch. I'm on one side, you're on the other. Fuck you.
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someone with a mission.
This reply gets my vote for sure.
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#1212624 - 06/28/07 05:11 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
Yup, Mr. Collins is going to have to return to the States eventually.
Which I am sure he will be welcomed with open arms.
Surf cams and those that pimp them ruined surfing.
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#1212635 - 06/28/07 05:27 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
Hmmm, 18 hour plane flight. Boat Charter for $30,000 for 10. Overnight Boat ride. VS. 4 Hour plane flight, $20,000 disguised as Goodwill, 5 days of a Reeling hollow right point break during the best swell of the year, 15 of your buddy's. Sounds like they are getting away with the deal of the year. Are we really mad or are we jealous? I THINK WE ARE A LITTLE OF BOTH. Not one person posting on here would have turned down an invite by Mr. Collins to be a part of this piracy. Especially prior to the events above. On the other hand, the way they handled this stinks. Especially the story above about the guys on the beach. Violence should never be an answer. So I will also be canceling my subscription to Surfline as well as writing a strongly worded letter about the violation of ethics that someone in Mr. Collins position has condoned.
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#1212639 - 06/28/07 05:33 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
I'm going to post my surfline premium membership account login and password on their message board and in a myspace bulletin for all to use.
sufline =
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#1212641 - 06/28/07 05:35 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
Those young ladies looked pretty cute. I think it would be hard to say no to them unless you were a complete FAGGOT!
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#1212642 - 06/28/07 05:35 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
What a total clusterfvck.
I know one of my friends who's been surfing there for years who has a stunning left is gonna be all .
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#1212643 - 06/28/07 05:38 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
Surfline Hypocricy
http://www.surfline.com/surfology/surfology_borl_07.cfm
What a bunch of idiots, but it was only a matter of time before it came to this. Wonder how many rocks will get tossed at Sean next time he's shooting at lowers?
What goes around comes around.
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#1212649 - 06/28/07 05:42 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
hopefully at least all teh jackass pros will throw alot of dinero aroudn when they go out on the town...tip REALY HEAVY
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The world is a small place and I will no doubt run into you somewhere. I will fuck you up as soon as I see you, that's for sure. I'm going to put my arm in your ass elbow deep and punch you so hard in the back of the head that I'll break your fuckin' skull. I hope you're not alone. Your friends can watch and then I'll break their faces next. You got a gun? You better carry it with you all the time because the animals are in the streets and cunts like you get fucked hard and broken up. You better shoot me in the face. The line is drawn in the sand, bitch. I'm on one side, you're on the other. Fuck you.
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#1212656 - 06/28/07 05:57 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
I cant take credit for that. It was a letter to Ann Coulter I found in a Henry Rollins book.
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Hmmm, 18 hour plane flight. Boat Charter for $30,000 for 10. Overnight Boat ride. VS. 4 Hour plane flight, $20,000 disguised as Goodwill, 5 days of a Reeling hollow right point break during the best swell of the year, 15 of your buddy's. Sounds like they are getting away with the deal of the year. Are we really mad or are we jealous? I THINK WE ARE A LITTLE OF BOTH. Not one person posting on here would have turned down an invite by Mr. Collins to be a part of this piracy. Especially prior to the events above. On the other hand, the way they handled this stinks. Especially the story above about the guys on the beach. Violence should never be an answer. So I will also be canceling my subscription to Surfline as well as writing a strongly worded letter about the violation of ethics that someone in Mr. Collins position has condoned.
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Your points are valid.
Yeah, i'm jealous and probably would take a free trip too if the situation was offered. But then again, I hope everyone involved in this deceit gets chastized.
Personally, nothing will be said or done and this is just the first wave of this type of surf corruption to come. It will be the new "in thing." Only next time it will be movie stars and the top execs at the major companies as bonusus for jobs/lies well done.
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#1211757 - 06/27/07 02:17 PM
Yesterday, Tues. June 26 a couple of my girlfriends and I who all live in Puerto, went super early to Barra to surf in the morning. We heard that there was a contest or something starting at 8 am so we thought we would get a few waves from first light until 8 am and then get out of the water when they tell us the contest start. Then we would go surf somewhere else later.
We got in the water around 6:30 and were catching waves and having a great time just 3 of us Puerto girls with a couple of other friends and two nice Australian boys we just met in the water.
At about 7am this guy comes climbing up the rocks and screaming and whistling at us and yelling that we need to get out of the water. We yelled back that we’ll get out once the contest starts, that there isn’t even anyone at the beach yet.
He was crazy, he started throwing rocks and was really freaking out. He kept saying he was going to jump in and crack open our heads. But we knew he couldn’t swim so we didn’t really worry. But he nearly hit us with his rocks that he was throwing and it became very dangerous. So we got out.
When we got out he came running up and now he was less angry. We recognized him as the President of Barra. We asked him why he was acting like a loco and freaking out like that. How can you throw big rocks at three girls who are just surfing?
We told him that we only wanted to surf before the contest starts and that of course we will get out of the water once they are ready, but right now there is no one in the water so let us surf.
He said that the Gringos told him that when they show up and drive up over the hill, they want to look down at the beach and water and they don’t want to see anyone in the water. If they see even one person, they are not going to give him any money.
That explains why the President was so angry. He wants the money for his pocket. You know here in Mexico there is the tradition “la bolsa” which basically is that most of the money goes into the pocket of the official.
When we walked to the rocks to get our backpacks and stuff, the president’s guys had taken our stuff away – our camera and money and clothes. We ended up getting it all back, but what a hassle.
We got out of the water and went over to the palapas and waited for the People to come. At 8:30 am the special people showed up. We could have been surfing for 2 hours peacefully and then got out, but no they did not let us.
Here are the empty waves we had to watch for 1 hour while nobody was surfing, waiting for the rich people to come up over the hill for their view of empty Barra waves. They wouldn't even let the Barra local kids surf before they came.
When the main guy came walking down the beach (shown in the picture below) we asked him if we could get permission to surf before and after the contest since we had taken off of work and now we were down there staying at our families friend’s place and wanted to stay a couple of days visiting them.
He said NO. He said that we have to be VIP – and that we can only be so by helping the town like he did. We started to laugh and told him that we help the town for many years, we know all of the kids there, give them boards and fix their boards and bring them stuff. He couldn’t even speak Spanish. When we started talking to him in Spanish and asked him how he helped the town, he got angry and told us to F*** Off.
Here is his picture. Who is that?
So we sat on the beach and watched the special people come. There were about 8 surfers and two boogie boarders. Here is one of the boogie boarders in the picture below. She couldn’t even paddle out past the current.
Here is another picture of one of the surfers. This guy in the picture below told us to Piss Off and then he said “Get Off of our Beach NOW” – and he started acting like a lunatic so we walked away.
Of course we are not angry with the President of Barra since he is just a poor, uneducated man that was taken advantage of. We’re angry with the Gringo jerks that told me and my girlfriends to F*** off. Like this one above. (who is that?) See the Van behind him where it says “Surfline Goodwill Tour” – what a joke. Where is the goodwill?
You guys only came down here to take advantage of a poor little town so you could surf the waves your selves. Then you make a big story like you are helping the town. We are friends of the town and know most of them and talk with them about this, and everyone laughs and knows that all of this money is going straight into the pocket of the President. And of what is left over they are going to pave the road to the beach, because that is what the guys asked them to do. No body in town ever heard of any clinic or other stuff that surfline was telling people. That is just not true.
You jerks that disrespected us and called us names are lucky that we didn’t come with our friends. I almost don’t want to tell them about this and show them your pictures, because they are a little bit crazy, the Puerto boyz, and they won’t be so nice to you when they see you in Puerto, or in Barra.[/QUOTE]
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The same thing as the Scott Bass's e-mails thread and any other anti "SURFLIE" thread.
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Dear sponsors/supporters of the Surfline ´Goodwill´ Tour,
On the 25th of this month (June), two friends and I arrived in Barra de la Cruz on a much anticipated surf trip after vigorous planning and hard work. There was also the obvious financial burden in which one experiences when travelling all the way from Australia. As my friends had been in Mexico for a week prior to my arrival, they had surfed the waves of La Jolla just as any travelling surfer would. However, when they returned with myself on the 25th of June, we were greeted by a sign to the entrance indicating that there would be a competition taking place for the next five days and that only professional surfers had exclusive access to the waves. This sign was NOT up when they were surfing the week before (thus, we would not have bothered travelling there to surf). We were later informed by several sources (who live in the village) that the sign was erected TWO days before the event. Firstly I ask you, how does one plan their international surf trip with two days notice? It also seemed quite a coincidence that the ´Goodwill´ tour took place at the same time as the best swell of the season was upon us. As we had already booked and paid for our accommodation (that was actually closer to the beach than where the sign was posted), we decided that we would get up before first light and get a surf in before the competition commenced (as with any professional surf competition, with clear intentions of heading in when competition began). Upon our arrival to the beach, we saw the partially assembled tents in which had also been there the day before. We also encountered approximately five mexicans that were taping off the area as you walked towards the point to paddle out. There were also a few people in the water, with the waves being flawless. As we started walking towards the point we were greeted by two mexicans that could not speak english and were indicating (with hand gestures) that we could not enter the ´site´. We asked if any of the organisers of the event were present, and clearly there wasn´t. Not wanting to enter the site, we decided that we would paddle from the beach out to the point until someone from administration had arrived. Clearly, we were not causing any problems as there were only a few fellow ´gringos´out there surfing. Soon after reaching the line-up, we noticed two Mexicans on the point screaming at us. Soon after, we noticed that rocks were being thrown at us from the cliff by both hands and sling-shots. Not knowing what was going on, the only choice we had was to hang around on the shoulder and wait for someone to paddle out and tell us what the problem was (obviously not paddling to the beach as we were unsure of what would have awaited us there). With rocks the size of tennis balls being launched at us from some distance and height, we knew that if one should hit us in the head it would have surely killed us. Soon after, I was unlucky enough to have a rock skim my leg and cause me some minor damage. After approxiamtely 20 mintues (and without catching a single wave), three Mexicans paddled out and told us that we should paddle in. Soon after, we paddled into the beach to find out what the problem was. Still, no apparent organisers of the event were present. However, we did notice that Mike Parsons was sitting on the beach inside the taped off area. My friend and I then approached him to find out what the problem was and why we couldn´t surf before the so-called ´contest´as no one was there, nor was anyone surfing. He swiftly told us that he was on holidays and had absolutely nothing to do with the ´Goodwill´tour. He also said that he would NOT be surfing. It seems funny now that after reading surflines website that Mike Parsons was one of the 15 VIP´s of the event (The Surfline Goodwill Tour: Mexico will have fifteen VIP participants, a few additional pros (including Brad Gerlach, Mike Parsons - http://www.surfline.com/surfnews/surfwire.cfm?id=9761). Whilst talking to Mr Parsons, we heard screaming from up the beach. It was now apparent that our friend had paddled in further down the beach away from the taped off area. As we looked, it was clear to us that he was being attacked by a group of mexican men. We sprinted up the beach to see what and why this was happening, only to be greeted by a group of Mexican men armed with pieces of wood and rope. They were hitting my friend, trying to take his board, and tie him up. Obviously, we assisted our friend and tried to deter the attackers. Although outside of the taped area and making it clear that we were leaving, they continued to hit our boards and our persons. This continued for sometime without ANY retaliation. We then continued to swiftly make up our way up the beach and towards our accommodation, with three severely damaged boards, physical abuse, and extreme anxiety. As we walked up the road towards our accommodation we noticed a car coming down the road. It was noticable that in it was Sean Collins, the ´organiser´ of the event. We asked him why this brutality had taken place and also why we could not surf. Obnoxiously, his response was ¨What did you do when when Rip Curl were here?¨. Being a so-called ´Goodwill´ tour, this answer was clearly not what we were expecting. He then continued towards the beach. Approximately three hours later we spoke to Kim, one of the official translators for the event, who informed us that the men who threw rocks at us and assaulted us were working directly for Sean Collins, the organiser of the event. He also informed us that we were lucky that we were not kiled - for doing what we all love so dearly - pathetic. Clearly, Sean Collins, along with the sponsors of the event are directly accountable for both the physical and financial damage that was suffered on that particular day, not to mention the reputation of the companies that placed there name on such an event. Furthermore, as far as I was aware, the notion of ´goodwill´is giving, not taking. How can eradicating fellow surfers (including most local surfers from the village) be indicative of such a gesture? Buying exclusive access to a world class wave is obviously taking far more than what is being given. We do not let this occur at waves in America, Australia, and Hawaii, just to name a few, so why should this be able to occur in countries that are less financially fortunate? The exploitation of waves such as Barra is something that should not happen in the present, nor the future. Surfline and fellow sponsors should ´donate´ money directly to the village and continue to let others surf if they feel that they are in need, without taking. I expect that such an incidence should never happen again. I look forward to your reply.
Regards,
Anthony Brown (Australia).
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then this email:
Dear organisers and supporters of the Surfline Goodwill Tour,
I write to you in response to the email I have received from Anthony Brown outlining the treatment he received at the hands of your contest director Sean Collins, and the apathy shown by Billabong sponsored rider Mike Parsons. There are several pretty clear reasons why their treatment is completely unacceptable, firstly of course, the use of violence by the security guards hired by contest director Sean Collins. The responsibility of the actions of those Mexican security guards lies solely with the competition directors and organisers, violence can not be condoned ever, and certainly not when there clearly was no harm what so ever being done to the contest site.
The second and probably the most concerning for surfers the world over is the lack of notification that an event is going to be taking place which limits the use of the break. La Jolla is no longer an underground break. Since the Rip Curl Search exposed it to the world last year it has become a world renowned dream destination. What sort of commitment does it take to get to La Jolla for an Australian surfer? A couple of thousand dollar plane ticket, 20 hours in the plane and more than a few hours on a rickety bus using all the holiday time you get for the year - a big commitment I think you will agree. To officially announce the event on the 14 of May with a waiting period between 29 May to the 10 June, giving two weeks notice is absolute bull s**t. Giving the event the pick of the best 5 day forecasted period between May 29 and June 10 is bull s#$t, to not announce that you have decided not to run the event during its scheduled period is bull s$#t, to announce on the 20 June that the event is to run from the 26 to the 30 of June is just bull s*%t. Trips to La Jolla are planned months in advance, turning up to find a contest site is the last thing any travelling surfer would want to find. I have been to busy surfing (it's been pumping in Sydney for the last month) to have checked what the swell ended up being like in the originally planned period 29 May - 10 June, but I'm guessing it was flat, this leads to my next point.
I'm a little suspicious of the motives of the Goodwill Tour, it seems to me that raising $20 000 for the local community is a rather poor goal, why would you be aiming so low? Why not $100 000 or $200000. You would of course set your goals low if your real motivation is to hire the break for a week and have it exclusively for your self, seems the going price is $20 000. Is Surflines Goodwill Tour really an opportunistic way to gain exclusive use of break for a week for a group of professionals to take photos and gain publicity, seems like it to me. Wait until you forecast a good swell then pay the local community $20 000 and get the place to yourself, you people are s&*t, and this s**t is sticking to all those who have sponsored or been associated with this event.
So congratulations to all those sponsors and associates of the event - Barra Events, Surfline, Billabong, Wavehunters, Quicksilver, Sol Beer, Mexicana Airlines, NSL, HSS, Third Point - You have a great job of selling out the surfing community.
Kindest Regards,
Warren Brewer.
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then this email:
>Dear all,
>Im sitting here in Bali disgusted to the pit of my stomach as how my
>younger brother Anthony was treated at YOUR contest in mexico.
>I was not there but I can assure you my brother is one individual
>who I will stand proud and loud for, he is the most respectful and
>mellow individuals i know and his love for surfing has seen him
>travel the world many times. I have seen hassles in the water
>everyday and its a sad sight but i have never heard of anything like
>this.
>The 'surfline goodwill tour', yeah it sounds great, doing it for
>the cause hey mr. collins? Sure you are, you thug.
>I hope surfline realise just how damaging this could be to your
>company and future events, and i also hope everyone of you feel
>this on a personal level.
>As a fellow surfer I know my brother did nothing wrong.
>A duty of care was not shown (in fact exactly the opposite, you had
>impressionable, naive, poor people carry out such brutal acts that
>could of had them blinded, drown or even killed, all under the
>orders of your contest directors.)
>Now does that sound like a 'goodwill' tour? I think not.
>Whats done is done, All you can do now is redeem your reputations.
>SURFLINE surely doesnt want this matter to go any further.
>My brother and his mates now are in mexico, batterd bodies and
>boards, lost absolutey all faith in surfing and the circus that is
>associated with it.
>I look foward to a reply, yours in good faith,
>Stephen Brown.
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and then this email
As a long time good friend and travelling companion of Anthony Brown I read the below email with a keen interest. One thing I can't figure out is what is happening to surfing and the people involved in it? In Australia, you get muppets on jet skis patrolling the competition areas trying to muscle people out of the water which is expected but throwing rocks at people and attacking them with pieces of wood!? That is beyond the pale and unacceptable . But then you probably wouldnt expect anything less from people such as Sean Collins. I have never met him, I dont know him, nor do I care to but from what Anthony has explained, his attitude is lower than the guts of a sh!thouse rat. Especially taking into consideration the fact that there wasnt anyone in the water and the comp hadnt started and Anthony and his crew had done what they thought was right and got up at the crack of dawn to try and snavel some waves before the event started. Even when they moved further down the beach it wasnt good enough for Collins' breed of Mexican thugs. Whoever organises a marathon doesnt own the road, whoever organises a surf comp doesnt own the surf. When the comp is in full swing, fair enough but before a comp, the waves are anyone's entitlement and when physical abuse and property damage are involved, it certainly shames the industry and those responsible. You can get away with it in a third world country with corrupt law enforcement and it appears Collins has taken advantage of this and let down his fellow surfers.
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#1212540 - 06/28/07 03:33 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
At first i was joking with CCG and everyone else here about these goons having Barra to themselves. I said it was ok and bla bla bla.
I thought the whole thing was a joke.
I still don't believe this kind of crap is going to or has happened. But if it is and has already done so as in the e-mails above.
That is unacceptable and Mr. Collins should have his ass kicked up and down our local Orange County Beaches along with Parsons Gerlach and the rest of the corp sellout monkies involved in this fiasco.
F-ING PATHETIC!
Talk about greedy F&*^%ing pigs.
By the way Bassy, you spelled "Surfline" wrong. Like i'm the one to talk with the way i spell.
Or is this some huge troll and i bit hook line and STINKER?
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#1212541 - 06/28/07 03:33 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
Surfline just lost another subscriber.
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#1212543 - 06/28/07 03:36 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
And just think, they could of got better waves in Peru and not bothered anyone.
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#1212544 - 06/28/07 03:39 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
Wow...I for one will not be renewing my subscription in Aug. Wow.
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#1212545 - 06/28/07 03:40 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
It's simple. Be good and you're good. Otherwise, risk banishment
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Imagine that! 2 mexicans in mexico who don't speak English!
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I canceled mine today also- sent them a letter saying that they suck, basically. I never used it anyways.
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#1212554 - 06/28/07 03:49 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
further proof that corporations have no place in surfing
Let's just whore out everything, mmmmmmkay?
this crap always put me in a cynical mood
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#1212555 - 06/28/07 03:50 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
well if this indeed is a troll, its the BEST trolling Ive ever seen here.
This would be the $20,000.00 troll
sadly I dont feel it is, especially with whats been transpiring the last decade, with corp surfing.
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#1212556 - 06/28/07 03:50 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
I sure hope the guy that was assaulted on the beach makes an appearance at the Surflie headquarters, complete with baseball bat and goes completely apeshit in Collins' office.
Sean Collins and Surflie has sunk to a new low.
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Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: RemyXO]
#1212559 - 06/28/07 03:56 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
So, the company that has installed camera's throughout the world at spots, creating a new level of crowding and hype for every little swell; THAT company is holding a contest in Mex and hired some security to keep non-invited folk out of the water during the contest? Is that the story?
And this is shocking, how?
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#1212561 - 06/28/07 03:58 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
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#1212563 - 06/28/07 04:00 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
He should hit them in their moneybelt.
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Loc: knowhere Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: Scott Bass]
#1212565 - 06/28/07 04:05 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
Swell on the way!
$1000 each!
Oh, and someone get that sign up and tell the locals to throw rocks off the point if anyone paddles out!
Geezus, ...
Collins
Parsons
and Gerr?
Did Parsons really lie to Brown's face?
"I'm not surfing."
This is fukking insane.
INSANE!
Collins was planning it around the swell. $20,000 is chickensh!t. Fukkin' "Goodwill" this is not. This is new-age piracy and guess fukkin' what?
The pirates are going to be outnumbered.
Anthony Brown sounds like one of us, no?
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#1212566 - 06/28/07 04:06 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
This wasn't a contest. It was a corporate outing. Pay the pro's to surf with the CEO's kinda thing, like golfers do all the time, except this was a giant pig fuck. Sean Collins has some splainin to do.
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#1212576 - 06/28/07 04:19 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
cameras down due to technical difficulty
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#1212577 - 06/28/07 04:21 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
It would be interesting to see what banner ads are still on their site after that bad ass bug hit the windshield and didnt mearly splatter, but blew it out.
How about this trainwreck on the damage control front...
Think how the execs at Nike feel having their logo impaled on the windshield
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Loc: Carlsbad, California Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: corndog]
#1212581 - 06/28/07 04:24 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
corndog, you're delusional. Do you honestly believe that anyone at Nike even cares? Do you think that anyone outside of this small surfing clan will even pick up on this "story"? LOL
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#1212583 - 06/28/07 04:25 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
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Seems like Sean Collins has no problem with rock-throwing...
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Loc: Carlsbad Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: Who's Your Daddy]
#1212591 - 06/28/07 04:29 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
uh, my bad. Nearly forgot, zillion dollar a year monster pondering our thoughts... please hit the time machine and delete previous post Bassy.
Screw this, time for a surf flick to cool the jets. Heck, I will show Goodwill... I buy the first round of drinks and get to have the Salvadorian death squad escort anyone out of the tavern who we don't care for.
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#1212595 - 06/28/07 04:35 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
They even have threads on this over on the Surfline Forums.
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Re: Surline's Goodwiil Tour Gone Bad - emails I received - [Re: GWS]
#1212598 - 06/28/07 04:38 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
Email I sent
Mr. Collins,
When I initially read your involvment on behlaf of the community in Barra during the RipOFFCurl debacle, I was impressed. I figured you as someone who actually gave a shit as to what happens when a small community becomes a world surf destination. However, it has become apparent, from various different accounts of your so called "goodwill" tour, that not only are you as bad as the greedy RipOFFcurl goons, you may even be worse. I've yet to hear your account of the incidents involved in you and your "tour" paying a token amount to take over a surf spot with brute force. So I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I eagerly await your response, either publicly through your website, or privately on how or why you feel justified making a small ( by you and your sponsors standards) donation, as a guise to privatize a surfspot. Please specify how this isn't elitism and greed, and clarify how this is not setting a ridiculously dangerous precedent?
Anticipating your response,
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ibwahanui
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Loc: san diexico Re: Surfline's Goodwiil Tour - emails I received - [Re: Scott Bass]
#1212602 - 06/28/07 04:42 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
fvckin yuppies killed surfing.
sean collins has killed the magic a surprise swell brings.
i hope the mexicans in la jolla get a nice clinic.
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Loc: Carlsbad Re: Surfline's Goodwiil Tour - emails I received - [Re: Scott Bass]
#1212607 - 06/28/07 04:47 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
It seems funny now that after reading surflines website that Mike Parsons was one of the 15 VIP´s of the event (The Surfline Goodwill Tour: Mexico will have fifteen VIP participants, a few additional pros (including Brad Gerlach, Mike Parsons - http://www.surfline.com/surfnews/surfwire.cfm?id=9761). ...
Seems to have gone missing
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Re: Surfline's Goodwiil Tour - emails I received - [Re: Scott Bass]
#1212611 - 06/28/07 04:52 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
It was sick and disgusting when Rip Curl pretended to be worried about the financial well-being of the people at this spot (justifying the revelation of Barra to help this "impoversihed" community). We all know it was for purely selfish fincancial reasons (Have the built a clinic or a hospital for the local residents?). Even more disgusting are Sean Collins' actions of actually taking advantage of this poverty to buy local people off who are desperately poor enough to commit acts of violence. I am so truly offended by his actions that I have decided to NOT EVEN CLICK on his website again for fear of appeasing his advertisers. I ALSO MAKE AN OPEN PLEE TO THESE ADVERTISERS TO REMOVE THEIR ADS FROM SURFLINE.COM!!!!!!! The surf industry has walked in the shadow of "bro-dom" for too long. Lest we forget these are now mega corporations hell bent on making a profit off surfing. WE SHOULD HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE!!! How often does any surf company contribute to the local places where they profit off of exotic surf footage? They've got the money. They would argue that their mere presence helps to "inflate" local economies. Are they then entitled to rule over these spots like local lords? When was the last time a mega corporation contributed to your local spot; beach clean-up, or otherwise minor act of decent citizenry? Stairs down to the beach, improved bike path or anything else? These guys are laughing all the way to the bank!!! The pay local surf stars to get photos that advertise your local breaks!!! In the meantime goons like Sean Collins predict swells to the masses then take off and rent their own PRIVATE break. I've got news for everyone (myself included) WE HAVE BEEN SUCKERED!
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#1212612 - 06/28/07 04:53 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
My letter was similar but with a more proactive tone:
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The world is a small place and I will no doubt run into you somewhere. I will fuck you up as soon as I see you, that's for sure. I'm going to put my arm in your ass elbow deep and punch you so hard in the back of the head that I'll break your fuckin' skull. I hope you're not alone. Your friends can watch and then I'll break their faces next. You got a gun? You better carry it with you all the time because the animals are in the streets and cunts like you get fucked hard and broken up. You better shoot me in the face. The line is drawn in the sand, bitch. I'm on one side, you're on the other. Fuck you.
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P.S. cancel my premium account.
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#1212623 - 06/28/07 05:11 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
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The world is a small place and I will no doubt run into you somewhere. I will fuck you up as soon as I see you, that's for sure. I'm going to put my arm in your ass elbow deep and punch you so hard in the back of the head that I'll break your fuckin' skull. I hope you're not alone. You're friends can watch and then I'll break their faces next. You got a gun? You better carry it with you all the time because the animals are in the streets and cunts like you get fucked hard and broken up. You better shoot me in the face. The line is drawn in the sand, bitch. I'm on one side, you're on the other. Fuck you.
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someone with a mission.
This reply gets my vote for sure.
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#1212624 - 06/28/07 05:11 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
Yup, Mr. Collins is going to have to return to the States eventually.
Which I am sure he will be welcomed with open arms.
Surf cams and those that pimp them ruined surfing.
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BrownFish
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Re: Surfline's Goodwiil Tour - emails I received - [Re: Scott Bass]
#1212635 - 06/28/07 05:27 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
Hmmm, 18 hour plane flight. Boat Charter for $30,000 for 10. Overnight Boat ride. VS. 4 Hour plane flight, $20,000 disguised as Goodwill, 5 days of a Reeling hollow right point break during the best swell of the year, 15 of your buddy's. Sounds like they are getting away with the deal of the year. Are we really mad or are we jealous? I THINK WE ARE A LITTLE OF BOTH. Not one person posting on here would have turned down an invite by Mr. Collins to be a part of this piracy. Especially prior to the events above. On the other hand, the way they handled this stinks. Especially the story above about the guys on the beach. Violence should never be an answer. So I will also be canceling my subscription to Surfline as well as writing a strongly worded letter about the violation of ethics that someone in Mr. Collins position has condoned.
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Loc: The sunkist beaches of So. Cal... Re: Surfline's Goodwiil Tour - emails I received - [Re: BrownFish]
#1212639 - 06/28/07 05:33 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
I'm going to post my surfline premium membership account login and password on their message board and in a myspace bulletin for all to use.
sufline =
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Re: Surfline's Goodwiil Tour - emails I received - [Re: BrownFish]
#1212641 - 06/28/07 05:35 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
Those young ladies looked pretty cute. I think it would be hard to say no to them unless you were a complete FAGGOT!
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#1212642 - 06/28/07 05:35 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
What a total clusterfvck.
I know one of my friends who's been surfing there for years who has a stunning left is gonna be all .
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#1212643 - 06/28/07 05:38 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
Surfline Hypocricy
http://www.surfline.com/surfology/surfology_borl_07.cfm
What a bunch of idiots, but it was only a matter of time before it came to this. Wonder how many rocks will get tossed at Sean next time he's shooting at lowers?
What goes around comes around.
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#1212649 - 06/28/07 05:42 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
hopefully at least all teh jackass pros will throw alot of dinero aroudn when they go out on the town...tip REALY HEAVY
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#1212652 - 06/28/07 05:49 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
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The world is a small place and I will no doubt run into you somewhere. I will fuck you up as soon as I see you, that's for sure. I'm going to put my arm in your ass elbow deep and punch you so hard in the back of the head that I'll break your fuckin' skull. I hope you're not alone. Your friends can watch and then I'll break their faces next. You got a gun? You better carry it with you all the time because the animals are in the streets and cunts like you get fucked hard and broken up. You better shoot me in the face. The line is drawn in the sand, bitch. I'm on one side, you're on the other. Fuck you.
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#1212656 - 06/28/07 05:57 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
I cant take credit for that. It was a letter to Ann Coulter I found in a Henry Rollins book.
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#1212665 - 06/28/07 06:10 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
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Hmmm, 18 hour plane flight. Boat Charter for $30,000 for 10. Overnight Boat ride. VS. 4 Hour plane flight, $20,000 disguised as Goodwill, 5 days of a Reeling hollow right point break during the best swell of the year, 15 of your buddy's. Sounds like they are getting away with the deal of the year. Are we really mad or are we jealous? I THINK WE ARE A LITTLE OF BOTH. Not one person posting on here would have turned down an invite by Mr. Collins to be a part of this piracy. Especially prior to the events above. On the other hand, the way they handled this stinks. Especially the story above about the guys on the beach. Violence should never be an answer. So I will also be canceling my subscription to Surfline as well as writing a strongly worded letter about the violation of ethics that someone in Mr. Collins position has condoned.
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Your points are valid.
Yeah, i'm jealous and probably would take a free trip too if the situation was offered. But then again, I hope everyone involved in this deceit gets chastized.
Personally, nothing will be said or done and this is just the first wave of this type of surf corruption to come. It will be the new "in thing." Only next time it will be movie stars and the top execs at the major companies as bonusus for jobs/lies well done.
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I think the guys from Oz should file charges, only if it only serves making an example out of this whole deal. Damaged boards? Personal Injuries_ Death Threats? Ruined vacations?? Are you kidding me? This is prime law suit material.
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Why won't Scott Bass say whats going on?
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Fuck Surfline.
That is such bullshit right there. If I had spent all that money, planned a vacation across the world, taking the time off work, then to be treated like that, I would be extremely pissed off.
Surfline are such whores. Lola perfect example, why pay for that when you can get practically the EXACT same thing for free via the Navy WAMS? 
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because he don't he just bans, shuts down thread, locks them, makes shit disappear he never gives reasons. if you stay here long enough maybe even you can because really good friends with the "New User" tab.
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Lola perfect example, why pay for that when you can get practically the EXACT same thing for free via the Navy WAMS?
b/c the vast majority of people are lazy bastards when it comes down to it....one website & you get LOLA, cameras at the biggest name breaks, plus all that "cool" surf news about the WCT & what all the super cool bro-brah pro "free" surfers are up to & the latest soulful boat trip they went on & had no contact w/ the native cutlure or people. who wouldn't want that?? 
i like wetsand.com....it's free (a BIG plus), i've found it to be remarkably accurate, & they've got a good crop of interesting news articles linked to the site, & they support "the surfer's path" one of the first, if not THE first, surf magazine to go totally green....
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hi, i'm chuy mondrigal, i put on the ripcurl event at la jolla last year.i was the cause of the blowing up at barra,and i think what wrong collins did is wrong .even though icant surf i can be just like the other fat f%ck and benefit
from surfing money wise.who ever doesnt like it can beat it!
they bougth the spot just like me and rip curl did. we can do whatever we want because we have all the money it takes.
im mexican and who gives acrap about a little pueblo in oaxaca.
PS I LOVE SEAN COLLINS WE RULE
NEXT TIME ANY ONE SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT ILL BEAT THEM!
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BRING IT ON SURFERS YOU CANT GO AGAINST THE SURF INDUSTRY WE RULE
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hey chuy check out this rad layback i pulled today:
guess which one is me 
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