Turtle71
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just a hint - if you go EPS, you might wanna go shorter. mine is 6'0 x 20 7/8 x 2 1/2 and it floats me like a champ but no overly so. I'm 6'0 / 185+. If i were to reorder the board I'd probably drop an inch or 2 in length... Like 5'10 x 20 3/4 x 2 1/2... DP77's is poly.
Will keep that in mind...
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Oceanslide
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Get a custom EPS from Sean.
If you're super comfortable on the dims of your fish, and
don't see any need to go with less foam, order those same
dims. If you'd like to scale down a bit to either give you
more performance capability, or just because you feel like
you could handle less foam without a problem, maybe go 6'2"ish, based on what you're currently surfing.
With this board, going with the exact same dims as your favorite
fish shape would work fine. You can tweak it a bit, and go
slightly longer/narrower than your fish to be able to cover
steeper and/or larger waves a tad better as well. Personal
preference, and what you want to get out of the board should
be discussed with Sean...he'd know best.
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adam33
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6'2 x20.5 x 2 3/8 Poly Shadow...
Waiting for waves...
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Turtle71
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Loc: NE FL
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Get a custom EPS from Sean.
If you're super comfortable on the dims of your fish, and
don't see any need to go with less foam, order those same
dims. If you'd like to scale down a bit to either give you
more performance capability, or just because you feel like
you could handle less foam without a problem, maybe go 6'2"ish, based on what you're currently surfing.
With this board, going with the exact same dims as your favorite
fish shape would work fine. You can tweak it a bit, and go
slightly longer/narrower than your fish to be able to cover
steeper and/or larger waves a tad better as well. Personal
preference, and what you want to get out of the board should
be discussed with Sean...he'd know best.
I do want to trim a bit of foam compared to my fish, but don't want to over do it and give up to much float and paddle power. I'm thinking it will give me more range with maneuverability as well as with wave size. Something between yours and dawnpatrol77's dims seem to make sense to me. The Boardworks version I was able to get under arm felt pretty good and it was 6'2"x21 1/8"x2 3/8". The 6'4"x21 3/8"x2 1/2" size felt a little too big/heavy. Defintely will go through Sean as soon as I sell off one of my other boards.
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Turtle71
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6'2 x20.5 x 2 3/8 Poly Shadow...
Waiting for waves...
That looks super nice! Stoked for you.  Thanks for posting those pics. I was thinking about getting color but white looks great too! As always, when you get enough water time....ride report please.
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OceanGuy
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Nice lookin board. What size fins are those?
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adam33
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not sure. I'll measure them later. I think a tad bigger than the MR twin fin.
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FishFace
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if you look earlier in the thread you can see those next to the MRTX 
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Oceanslide
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Picked up a set of these fins from Mattison the other day.
Can't wait to try 'em in the Shadow!
FINALLY got to try these fins out this evening in my Shadow.
I think they may have just made my favorite board ever even
better. Fast, solid, predictable, easy to flick up into
the lip quickly, and so buttery on tight carves. Want to
surf them a bunch more, then compare them to the Aurora
fins I've loved in it so much, but SUPER good first impressions.
Those ordering customs from Mattison, I highly recommend
getting it with these fins. 
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FishFace
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interesting that you tried every fin in the book before these. Welcome.
- i believe the trailer is the secret on these.
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Turtle71
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It seems that the majority of Shadow owners are favoring that setup. That small center reminds me of the FCS B5
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adam33
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Loc: Long Beach, NY
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or a wakeboard fin...
http://www.omnitech-engineering.com/fins/FinPhoto-Wakeboard-Large.asp?PhotoFile=Fin6_1_58Slider
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Bonzer111
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I'm actually liking the quad format better right now.
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NJL
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I don't like Sean's center fin! it slid out, but would grab at the wrong time. The MR trailer works great with Sean's twin fins, nice control while still being able to busting them loose. My Shadow is a go to board
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adam33
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Had my first solid session on my Shadow this am. After riding my Coils for the past 2 days (needed rocker to make the steep drops) it took me a few waves to acclimate to a board with lower nose rocker, but when I did, the board went amazing. Super fast down the line speed, buttery smooth rail to rail, top turns feel nice and snappy compared to other fish type boards I've been on in the past. Rode board with stilettos. I think Sean hit one out of the park with this design. Between this and my coils, I'm set. (and longboard for the little rollers)
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adam33
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Shadow ride report. This board is amazing. Had it out quite a bit this weekend in shoulder-head high decent waves. What a blast to ride. What I really noticed this past few sessions is it's instant speed. Really gets going easily and is just such a smooth ride. Switched the stilletto fins out with fins Sean designed for himself. If you go to the Von Sol blog you can see them in his Von Knight. I really like these fins. Feels like you can push off them a bit harder than the stilettos.Anyone who's looking for fish down the line speed with way more maneuverability, the Shadow is the ticket.
I freakin love it!
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Oceanslide
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Had mine out a few times recently with Mattison's twins
and that keel-looking trailer. Smooth and drivey down the
line and you can push on 'em as hard as you're able without
them sliding out. Nice, round carves. Switched out the
trailer for my trusty GS trailer fin and it still had the
drive but with the ability to pivot a touch tighter and/or
break the fins loose a bit when you want to. Both killer
feels, just different to suit your mood.
Talked to Sean today and he was giddy about a new fit setup
he's been playing with. Those larger twins in the front,
with two of those low-profile keel trailers as the rear fins in
a quad configuration.
Sounds funky, but the guy plays with fin setups as much
as anyone on his designs and he says this setup does
everything you could want....that it's super drivey and
fast, but can be thrown around like crazy in the Shadow.
Will have to investigate this further! 
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sakana_kid
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If anyone ever wants to sell a Shadow in the 5'6"-5'9" range and doesn't mind helping get it to Honolulu, let me know! I've really enjoyed the other fish from Sean and would love to get a Shadow too. 
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juan_guzman
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Got mine today.
Where can ya get those mini keels? I'd like a pair for rears in a quad. How much do they run apiece too if anyone knows.
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FishFace
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those fins come from Sean Mattison...
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juan_guzman
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Yeah I searched his blog, his web store, and googled "FCS von sol fins" and didnt turn up anything. I guess i'll call him. I figured someone on this thread would know an outlet and price.
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FishFace
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yeah - i wish von sol would have a better website... Youre gonna have to call him... let us know how much those trailers are... that would be interesting to try 2 of those on a quad...
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juan_guzman
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On the phone with him now -- about two of the mini-keels: "When I put them on the sides with the twin fins, it feels like I can drive on the bases like with a full size keel but break 'em loose and they're really fun." He sounds amped.
He can only sell them as a twin set with two mini-keels. $65.
Geez the guy rips so hard and has the dream job, you might think he'd be kind of a rockstar, but he's so cool and nice and gives you so much info on the stuff and his stoked-out riding impressions. Total stocker.
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Oceanslide
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yeah - i wish von sol would have a better website... Youre gonna have to call him... let us know how much those trailers are... that would be interesting to try 2 of those on a quad...
Regarding the website, I know the content has been ready to
put up for some time now...think it's just an issue of
Mattison having a look that he's really stoked on, and that
really translates well for the brand. He doesn't want to
just throw something up that will need to be re-done later.
Hopefully it's finished soon!
Juan, you're right. Tons of stoke poured into the boards,
fins, and whole package. Pretty apparent when you talk to
him about any of it.
Hope to pick up my new toy from him tonight or tomorrow.
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juan_guzman
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yeah - i wish von sol would have a better website... Youre gonna have to call him... let us know how much those trailers are... that would be interesting to try 2 of those on a quad...
Regarding the website, I know the content has been ready to
put up for some time now...think it's just an issue of
Mattison having a look that he's really stoked on, and that
really translates well for the brand. He doesn't want to
just throw something up that will need to be re-done later.
Hopefully it's finished soon!
Juan, you're right. Tons of stoke poured into the boards,
fins, and whole package. Pretty apparent when you talk to
him about any of it.
Hope to pick up my new toy from him tonight or tomorrow.
Oh yeah and also, he did say he was putting finishing touches on a website, I believe.
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Oceanslide
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Talked to Sean today and he was giddy about a new fit setup
he's been playing with. Those larger twins in the front,
with two of those low-profile keel trailers as the rear fins in
a quad configuration.
Sounds funky, but the guy plays with fin setups as much
as anyone on his designs and he says this setup does
everything you could want....that it's super drivey and
fast, but can be thrown around like crazy in the Shadow.
Will have to investigate this further!
Sean was kind enough to loan me one of his keel trailers
when I picked up the new board, to use with mine as a quad
setup. Will report back once I've had a few surfs with 'em.
Also got to see a mock-up of the website, which will
hopefully be done soon and offer lots more info. about
the boards and tie together his other projects too.
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FishFace
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Yeah I picked up another trailer today... Interested to see how it goes. I've had a lot of fun throwing different sets of fins in this one.
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retodd
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one of you need to try with 3 of those keels and some m7's up front
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dawnpatrol77
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just got my twin + trailer set up today. can't wait to try it out. stocked.
interested to see how the twin + 2 works as well.
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FishFace
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Yeah I picked up another trailer today... Interested to see how it goes. I've had a lot of fun throwing different sets of fins in this one.
Well I tried it...Pretty fun... Double the trailer fins and double the drive and the funny looks... Lost the looseness that I've been used to. Its a good quad alternative for sure.
Gonna try some different trailers next - one at a time.
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Oceanslide
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Little teaser of the newest Von Sol ride.
Much more to come after some more time on it, but so far,
fuggin stoked.
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retodd
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whats that one called ?
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20W-50 and blood
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youre friggin ridiculous
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hyper2
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becareful of that yellow board
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG5NX7fC8VM
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Oceanslide
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The Comet.
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three_rolled
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Other than the obvious differences (i.e., the Ewing and 5 fin plugs) how similar are these boards to a Mandala round pin quad or Christensen cafe racer. Outline looks similar from pics. Very interested in a board like this for an upcoming trip. Anyone ridden/seen these boards in person and can give a comparison? I'm guessing the Von sols are more "HP" (shortboardy) where's the others more closely resemble a fish derivative???
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retodd
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well if you like heavy boards and glass ons get the CC or mandala
the vonsoul boards will be more " rippa " for sure. turnaround time should be way faster too.
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FishFace
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well if you like heavy boards and glass ons get the CC or mandala
the vonsoul boards will be more " rippa " for sure. turnaround time should be way faster too.
Yep the customs ordered board thru Mr. Mattison are EPS. Pretty darn light and strong to boot. I saw some poly versions(moonlight glass) at Surfy Surfy and DP77 has a poly.
You're looking at over $200-$300 more for a CC or Mandala - new ones that is. The CC's I saw at Mitch's are heavy glass. There are a lot of similar shapes out there like the Shadow. Rusty Dwart, T Patterson Rising Sun, Xanadu Gipos, Firewire Dominator, etc - hell, I had a Sauritch and a Mabile that resembled the Shadow.
I went with this board because I LOVED the Black Knight series. The rocker is very similar to the BKQ boards.
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Oceanslide
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I've tried running these two keel trailers with my Aurora
twin fronts a couple times now and here's what I've noticed
so far....
Really drivey and fast. Almost feels like twin keels do in
the sense that you have a lot of base to push off of when
coming off the bottom or in carves. They allow you to do
more drawn-out, smooth and buttery carves as opposed to the
feeling of being able to snap the board around release that
the twin+trailer gives you. Can throw the board up vertical
(relatively speaking for my kook-ass) and it's solid.
I'd love to try this setup in a reef-break setup with lots
of shoulder/wall to work with as I think they'll make the
board a carving machine...feels like they want to be on rail
and driving. Pretty cool, and quite different than the
twin/trailer and other quad setups I've been running.
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Oceanslide
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Surfed my Shadow with my trusty twin/trailer setup this
morning in super clean, but pretty soft waves locally.
Another guy who surfs the same spot regularly (and who also
lurks around here) was out and we swapped boards for a few
waves. I think it was after his very first wave that he
paddled back out with a grin on his face and said he wanted
one. After two or three more (and after telling me his wife
would kill him if he got another board), he said, "That's it,
I'm calling Mattison and getting one!" 
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