twinzerfan
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Finally got some blanks in, and the time to shape something between all the glassing. This is a 5'6" Twinzer I made myself to work out some cobwebs after not shaping anything for a month or so. There are more to come after this tomorrow, I swear...
anyway on with the porn!
and decided to do something funky after lamming clears all day...
deck tomorrow, and surf this weekend... 
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kellsmith
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great post. thank you sire
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retodd
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looking forward to mine
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SoulSurf18
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awesome
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enframed
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Nice, I'd like to try one of those incut fish.
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retodd
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and what about #2 and #3 
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PartyBoy
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Beautiful shape but why do you flare out the pins? What purpose does that serve? Funky resin work too!
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manbearpig
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Beautiful shape but why do you flare out the pins? What purpose does that serve? Funky resin work too!
was just going to ask the same question. seems it would hurt performance as its doing the oppisite of keeping a flowy outline like a round tail or pulled in tails
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kellsmith
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this is him on an incut fish, if i remember correctly. i saw the sequence, he pulls it
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freaknut101
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if you ever, ever, ever head into San Mateo county, please let me know. Where in SC are you? It would be nice to pay a visit
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twinzerfan
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Beautiful shape but why do you flare out the pins? What purpose does that serve? Funky resin work too!
to be honest, the "flare" is an illusion as the tips are parallel to the stringer - or flare maybe 1/8" depending on size. The idea is to reduce your tail width much like a wing, without creating drag/release like the wings do. The result is very lively board, with loads of drive and hold.
I was skeptical of the concept at first. I saw a Mackie in Glass Love and was puzzled. Then a friend of mine in the UK(Mark Dickinson) made some and I watched him pig dog some solid Hossegor style barrels, and out surf guys oh thrusters on his 6' keel version and had to make one myself. He quit making boards and moved up to the Orkney Islands above Thurso, Scotland and took these with him..
and here's some EPS from his bay a while back..
That picture/sequence of me above is on the 1st one I ever made - miss that board! 
Its now roaming around Ireland somewhere...
anyway, the concept is not mine, and has been around since the 70s. Alan Gibbons makes them, Terry Fitzgerald made some, but the most intriguing ones to me are Rodney Ball's kneeboards. Check out Surf Research Australia for the low down - all you board geeks like me, that is...
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twinzerfan
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and what about #2 and #3
5'8" and 5'10" for Retodd and Soulsurf...
Retodd's 5'8"x21x2 3/8" Orange formula blank with cedar wedge...
soulsurf's 5'10"x21x2 3/4" blue formula version:
glassing them tomorrow guys, and thanks!
and a shot of the deck of the 5'6"..
add 4 clear lams for the shop and it's been a long day...!
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kellsmith
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 love the posts rob. cheerio  
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twinzerfan
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if you ever, ever, ever head into San Mateo county, please let me know. Where in SC are you? It would be nice to pay a visit
I'm working in the Handcrafted - Santa Cruz Board Builder's Guild - Haut mfg shop thingy on Swift St, SC. I'm there most days, and into the evenings doing all the clear lams. Pop in if you're passing by and say hello.
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retodd
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SoulSurf18
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Those look awesome, clean lines, major frothing here!!!!!
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saltyNuts
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thats one bad fish homie!
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twinzerfan
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Those look awesome, clean lines, major frothing here!!!!!
glassed the bottom of yours today maybe get the deck on later...
thanks!
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nkpheous
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Those look awesome, clean lines, major frothing here!!!!!
glassed the bottom of yours today maybe get the deck on later...
This is what makes this forum great. Nice work rob. Looking forward to seeing Todd's incut fish
thanks!
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retodd
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Looked at this a lot today
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SoulSurf18
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Curves like a 57 Chevy, looking good Rob, thanks for all of the updates. Did u ride the 5'6" yet?
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Oceanslide
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Skills! Always love the looks of your boards...these are all
no exception. Look forward to hearing some ride reviews from
retodd and soulsurf!
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freaknut101
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something about the outline of these boards seems to beg a set of halcyon's fins. seems like an eye candy marriage made in heaven
Edited by freaknut101 (11/09/11 09:03 PM)
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twinzerfan
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something about the outline of these boards seems to be a set of halcyon's fins. seems like an eye candy marriage made in heaven
paging Halcyon, paging Dr Halcyon, please report to the Haut shop at your 1st convenience...
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kellsmith
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twinzerfan
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thanks for all the replies, and general stoke.
I think anyone making boards by hand these days will say that it goes a long way to give it all some real meaning.
retodd's board is glassed, and only waiting on fin boxes/logos to arrive. Then hotcoats and some sandy sandy...Thing is stupidly light for a poly fish with 4/4s+3/4 patch on a team weight blank. Tapered the laps into the tail too to add to the tapered stringer flex. Kinda wishing I'd ordered another similar blank for me too...
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retodd
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It's all about the details 
STOKED beyond belief !
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ifallalot
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is yours going to be a twinzer retodd?
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retodd
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is yours going to be a twinzer retodd?
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kellsmith
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Quote:
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is yours going to be a twinzer retodd?
 tell me more
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twinzerfan
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retodd's fish all ready to go..
thanks ReTodd, I hope you enjoy it!
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winwin
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What the....? That thing looks pretty dope..the board, fins, never seen anything like it 
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twinzerfan
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and here's Soul's 5'10" all sanded and ready...
Thanks both of you guys for the support. Especially right off the bat, for faith in the concept, and in handcrafted boards!
Hope to see you in the water sometime soon Soul...
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freaknut101
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wow... and... wow
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rid
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Daaangg! looks hp.
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retodd's fish all ready to go..
thanks ReTodd, I hope you enjoy it!
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retodd
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who has leons #
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twinzerfan
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Daaangg! looks hp.
these boards are lively little bastards, so yeah, they are kinda HP in disguise...
Thanks for all the stoke on the boards everyone! Mine's been set aside while getting these all done, so now I'm doubly frothing to get mine done...!
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nkpheous
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retodd's fish all ready to go..
thanks ReTodd, I hope you enjoy it!
I know I will  that thing is sick
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airboy808
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1st dibs when you sell retodd. With fins
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kellsmith
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both of those are nuts. love the color work. fish platform on steroids + acid .
who made those fins rtodd? wheres wil to explain dynamic balance... 
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MarginWalker
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Good work, Rob
I am stoked that your boards are getting the attention they deserve. Perhaps this will serve that quell that bizarre psyche that pervades the surfing population here in the UK that 'unless it's from Oz or the States, it's inferior'...
You know as well as I that even the 'bigger' UK names like Gulfstream and Jonny Purton struggle against the tide of imports from the big name/big marketing guys from abroad.
Anyway, back to the boards; these things are definitely 'HP- but in a very unique way. Rob definitely understands both the need for speed and the ability to lay a board on rail.
Have you posted any quad eggs here on the 'BB? That will get people's juices flowing
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enframed
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Gorgeous, both of them.
Time to look for sh1t to sell.
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Turtle71
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Channel between the lead and main fins? Cool...I was wondering how something like that would work. Directing even more water flow? These look awesome!
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sdsurfrat
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SICK!
Rainbow still making those fins for Wil?
What's your placement? is it the same for both boards?
How wide is the swallow tip-to-tip? 10"-ish
Good stuff and welcome to the USSA
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SoulSurf18
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Few more pics here:
Couldn't be happier with how the board turned out or the whole process in general. Thank you Rob. Let's go surf. Ride report coming soon.
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PartyBoy
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Few more pics here:
I'm not usually a fan of color work but that is creatively good.
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laidback
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Have you posted any quad eggs here on the 'BB? That will get people's juices flowing
I wouldnt mind seeing some.
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retodd
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twinzerfan
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wow, thanks for the support everyone. Fired up by all the comments!
I don't have any pics of any eggs, other than the 5'2" Twin keel retodd posted above. I did some for another brand Label, that a friend and I tried to get off the ground last summer. I'll see if I can find them somewhere.
The channels between the fins, and some other features are borrowed from the Campbell brothers bonzer theory, and has so far been well excepted. I only do it on the Twinzer style set ups though. The keel versions are far more subtle. On a side note, I did a few experiments with a small Bonzer 5 inspired lead fin as the canard, with a rocket style keel, and they went unreal in more lined up waves, or if you have a real flowing style. May do some again if there is enough interest. Kinda like this one from '07:
The twin keels are still very lively, but typically have a slightly more traditional outline - ie fuller nose/tail dims. Deceptive little critters they are..
Hey Margin - yes, it is a sad fact the state of UK board makers appreciation at home, and european builders as a whole. There's some unbelievable talent over there that gets overshadowed by other brands. Funny thing is, from this side, there's a lot of interest in what is going on over there. So, it is only Europe's own mindset that is holding it back...
Anyway, I still have my return ticket for May, so hope to get over there for a bit. Be good to catch up for a surf, and see how you like the new versions.
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gkl68
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Looks like a nice twinzer fish! Looking forward to the ride reports! Or even better hope to see you in action at another dawn session.
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twinzerfan
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gl...
got in today at the point on my 5'6", and had an absolute blast. Was wondering where everyone was, but also glad there was only a few of us out to share some clean, and solid surf...
here it is all done, and already waxed and ridden 
and, for those asking about the keel versions, here's one I made for a customer a while back:
thanks, and happy Thanksgiving!
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Bonzer5Fin
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WOW!
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DANNOWAR
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that thing needs to get BONZER'd
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retodd
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thanx Rob
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twinzerfan
Gerry Lopez status
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yeah man, anytime!
now get that thing wet already!!!!
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retodd
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she goes !!
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airboy808
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details we want details
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retodd
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glides very well
does wraparound cutbacks unlike any fish i have tried
feels good backside .
got 3 really nice cutbacks today , one little cover up , and couple good floaters . the rights let me tic tak for a while and get some nice top turns .
glassing is solid , pass the woops test .
light like promised
trippy bottom contours too 
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airboy808
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Bump. Interested in hearing more feedback about some in cuts.
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retodd
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mine has been sidelined due to a mishap with the Santa Ana winds  , the swallow tip took a bad hit .
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SurfZombie
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Todd,
What do you think about riding the twinzer as a keel?
Do you think the placement is close enough (or would work well enough either way) that a board like that could pull double duty?
I'm considering to start the process of begging my wife to get me one. 
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SoulSurf18
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Due to a recent obsession with the Griffin Modfish I haven't ridden mine much yet. More of a review to come when I get a better idea of how the board is.
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retodd
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I think it would work very well with single foil keels , the timmy paterson template from true ames would be my first pic .
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twinzerfan
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What do you think about riding the twinzer as a keel?
The placement of the main fin as a twinzer is a little forward and more inboard that the normal keel placement. But, as most keels for finboxes have the trailing edge hanging back(outside and rear of the box) you could probably ride it as a keel.
Not optimal, but it could be fun all the same...
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twinzerfan
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The owner of my original 5'8" keel fin just sent me this picture of him in action somewhere in Ireland. Next he's apparently off to Morocco with it...
Bastard...
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Edited by twinzerfan (01/13/12 12:08 AM)
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retodd
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mine is going on my summer surf trip
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twinzerfan
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fresh 5'9" heading off to Hawaii:
Thanks CG!
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retodd
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Oh my GOD !
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twinzerfan
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all buffed and ready to go.
orange foam, 4/4S+4 deck, red antique tint.
thanks CG!
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rob
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retodd
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hey CG , wanna trade
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airboy808
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Yours plus a $1000000
this is the fish Lucifers imps would ride out of the seas of hell
Big Mahalos to Rob for making a wonderful craft. Mahalos retodd for giving out reviews and info. And mahalo to sublime to selling me some halcyon brr twinzer fins.
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WarrenC
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all buffed and ready to go.
orange foam, 4/4S+4 deck, red antique tint.
thanks CG!
my God twinzerfan!
Jesus Christ airboy!
by far the board post of the year imo...
holy sht...blown away
freakin mental 
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FishFace
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holy sh!t that is HOT.
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twinzerfan
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thanks everyone. means a lot!
and thanks to you guys for the support by ordering boards. hope you enjoy them!
hope airboy can keep wax on this thing over there in the islands...
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rob
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MarginWalker
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Jeez Rob....
The scariest thing is I know that thing will go as well as it looks!
Hope life is treating you well budd 
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