VaB
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Loc: Virginia Beach, VA
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hows it go in the super small stuff?
I feel like I remember this question from a few years back, but I thought I'd ask again. If I recall, it likes more walled up faces.
Thanks,
Vab
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manbearpig
Billy Hamilton status
Reged: 05/11/09
Posts: 1682
Loc: its so flat
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its still good. was my small wave board here in north east. definatly takes more to get it going then other fish (ie. my roberts diamond fish takes less to get it going because it is fuller in nose and tail in terms of thickness) but it still works. its not a bad option because it is a very diverse little board. depends on your ability as well. if you are a decent surfer and you can find little pockets of speed in small waves then its a great option, if not maybe look into somthing a little thicker in the nose/tail
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goingright
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Reged: 08/10/09
Posts: 567
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Funnest.Board.ever. Get the rnf classic and upgrade the fins. You can use it from gutless 1 foot surf to chest high. The rnf generates speed effortlessly in small surf. It becomes a liability in big punchy surf since the damm thing is way too fast. I'm thinking about getting the grocket for anything above chest high. Any feedback on grocket?
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20W-50 and blood
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Loc: SOCAL
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super small get that plank thing they have or whatever it is....bttom feeder...somethign riduclous that wil give you speed through the nothing
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Heavyfooted
Michael Peterson status
Reged: 10/17/06
Posts: 2717
Loc: Orange County
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Not sure what version you are talking as there are three versions... all distinctly different. For the most part, you'd probably find the RNF-Q covers the low-end the best (wider tail/5-fin setup).
If you're looking for the ultimate low-end mush buster, the bottom feeder is a great option. Pretty low NR but the nose is pulled in a bit, can still be surfed aggressively.
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Greg Griffin
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Reged: 10/31/04
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Loc: Sunset Point, Hawaii
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(wider tail/5-fin setup).
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000
Tom Curren status
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if its small i'd go with a twin or quad
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bac0701
Legend (inyourownmind)
Reged: 12/19/04
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greatest board ever... i vote twin or twin +1..sold mine in with the intent to buy another in a smaller size. ended uop getting a sweet deal on the rnfq. still would rather the classic
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SharkBoy
Michael Peterson status
Reged: 10/22/04
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i've had a couple and they've all varied quite a bit between one another
but i'd definitely say it's probably your best bet for an all around board for a place like VB
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manjushri
Gerry Lopez status
Reged: 01/03/09
Posts: 1282
Loc: 638
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i'm 6'3" & 165... does a 5'8" 19 1/2" x 2.25" sound good?
What side fins are you guys using? Girl in the shop said it comes with MR-Tx quad set.. no trailer.. what trailers are you guys using .. thx
these look nice
just put a $100 down on the 5 fin model.
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VCaba21
Gerry Lopez status
Reged: 03/06/06
Posts: 1091
Loc: South OC
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You'll be stoked. It's not a super groveler, but if there's any fun to be had on any given day, you'll find it! Enjoy! 
p.s. the MR fins you pictured are great. But I prefer a looser/less hold feel and I'd found a fun fin set up is to use a pair of Large front fins, PC-7s, or even H3s would work and use a small trailer, but one that's bigger than the MR trailer. Rainbow fin Co. makes a 3.75" trailer that worked great for me.
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manjushri
Gerry Lopez status
Reged: 01/03/09
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Loc: 638
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Thx man i was debating ordering those MR's as i like a stiffer fin than the stock material, but after your comment on and looking at their depth I'm over it.
I got some SUNNY's, or Mayhem GMB5's, which are a "PC-6"... i can use them as sides and then i got a Stretch quad 50/50 rear - 3.8" depth ...should be coo. Also looking forward to figuring out the best quad set-up..
Shewts.
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LoganV
Legend (inyourownmind)
Reged: 09/29/10
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I used MR-TX sides and a GS trailer on my 2008 RNF. Worked great.
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nightfly
Gerry Lopez status
Reged: 05/30/04
Posts: 1279
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On the regular RNF (not the quad) I like the MR TFX fins with no trailer. The narrower pulled in tail doesn't slide easily and in smaller waves, the lack of a center fin gives it a very free, fast feeling.
They seem to change the rocker and bottom curves on the RNF from year to year and personally I prefer the older ones with more nose rocker and more vee in the tail. The last one I got was super flat in the nose like a Rocket and with hardly any vee in the tail and I sold it pretty quick.
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retodd
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Quote:
i'm 6'3" & 165... does a 5'8" 19 1/2" x 2.25" sound good?
What side fins are you guys using? Girl in the shop said it comes with MR-Tx quad set.. no trailer.. what trailers are you guys using .. thx
Sounds to short , 5-10 might be q better fit .
these look nice
just put a $100 down on the 5 fin model.
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LoganV
Legend (inyourownmind)
Reged: 09/29/10
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i'm 6'3" & 165... does a 5'8" 19 1/2" x 2.25" sound good?
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Sounds to short , 5-10 might be q better fit .
Agreed. I'm 6'2" and my 5'10" was just right for me.
I wouldn't have wanted it any shorter.
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redrum540
Legend (inyourownmind)
Reged: 10/08/10
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Loc: Cape Fear/ Ocean Park
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I have a RNF5 and love it. It's my daily driver here in NC on the east coast. It goes in 1ft - head high. As a quad it works well in small stuff but in big stuff you better put some big fins as a thruster cause that thing is fast. If i only use the twin... super loose and skatey. I use anything from pc3's in it to am2 to mr's to gmb's.
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manjushri
Gerry Lopez status
Reged: 01/03/09
Posts: 1282
Loc: 638
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Sounds to short , 5-10 might be q better fit
if the boys are ridin 5'5" RNF's then 5'8" should be good fer me, Wardo's like 6.0 and he rides the lil 5'5"
5'8" should be straight ... gonna go see em today ..
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LoneWolf
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Reged: 07/06/11
Posts: 312
Loc: SD
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Quote:
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Sounds to short , 5-10 might be q better fit
if the boys are ridin 5'5" RNF's then 5'8" should be good fer me, Wardo's like 6.0 and he rides the lil 5'5"
5'8" should be straight ... gonna go see em today ..
They're also not grovelling. Not sure if that's your intended use but I know the OP was interested in that range.
Good luck and stop making me want this board!!
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johnxyz
Legend (inyourownmind)
Reged: 02/25/04
Posts: 234
Loc: East Coast
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Can you guys describe some of the differences and your preferences btwn the 1997 Classic RNF vs.:
RNF 5 Fin
The Blunt
Bottomfeeder
Plank
Also, does the Classic RNF just come in a 5'5" ? Thanks
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Heavyfooted
Michael Peterson status
Reged: 10/17/06
Posts: 2717
Loc: Orange County
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Can you guys describe some of the differences and your preferences btwn the 1997 Classic RNF vs.:
RNF 5 Fin (lower NR/less V/wider tail/single wing)
The Blunt (lower overall rocker/more concave/curvy outline frees it up)
Bottomfeeder (lowest overall rocker/much fuller outline/ridden shorter)
Plank (ridden shorter/piggy outline, more NR then BF)
Also, does the Classic RNF just come in a 5'5" ? (comes in full range of dims)
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johnxyz
Legend (inyourownmind)
Reged: 02/25/04
Posts: 234
Loc: East Coast
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Helpful -thnx
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hoss
Grom
Reged: 01/20/09
Posts: 78
Loc: shark city fl
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would the rnf5 work better than the blacksheep or sub scorcher for the small mushy stuff? would it get into waves earlier due to the wider nose? I've seen some people on here say they only work once its chest high but others say they work in gutless 1 ft.  guess I need to try one.
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WetDog
Grom
Reged: 09/06/08
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those boards are very different. best bet is to check out the lost website and mb's descriptions along with clips of the boards in action. also mb's blog describes the boards. or do a search of this message board. all those boards have been hashed out. they are all great boards.
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johnxyz
Legend (inyourownmind)
Reged: 02/25/04
Posts: 234
Loc: East Coast
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would the rnf5 work better than the blacksheep or sub scorcher for the small mushy stuff? would it get into waves earlier due to the wider nose? I've seen some people on here say they only work once its chest high but others say they work in gutless 1 ft. guess I need to try one.
Agreed - I've read similar conflicting experiences with the Lost RNF. Wetdog has good advice as far as trying to sort out the Lost board models and what each is designed to do. Is confusing, though...
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WetDog
Grom
Reged: 09/06/08
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based solely on my opinion. others may disagree.
rnf 5 fin - this is a high performance fish with a wing and a slightly pulled in swallow. Rides best as a twin with MR fins. Rides skatey in solid surf but also has hold when you need it when you get your back foot over the tail. works best in waist to a couple feet over head. Even biger depending on skill. Size it small like a classic fish. Likes a wave with push, flat or steep.
blunt is a wide, short, hybrid design that has a big single concave and rail rocker with a big round tail. Nose is narrower than RNF. Board has a lot of speed and lift and rides well as quad or thruster. Waist to head high. Turns tighter and goes top to bottom easier than the RNF, but the RNF is faster down the line. Likes to be closer to the curl. Rides more like a shortboard than a RNF, although the blunt certainly has some fish influences in it. Does real well in a variety of conditions.
Plank is a very wide and short longboard replacer and is good knee to head high, but best in thigh to chest high. Looks like a high performance mini simmons. wide round nose, flat middle rocker, with some nose and tail flip, slight bump to a wide diamond tail. very fast out of the gate and extreme lift allow it to nail turns in complete junk surf. Surfs good from the middle of board and excellent off the tail. can nose ride as well. high volume board. the volume and nose do increasingly become liabilities as surf gets more powerful. Still a very fun board for low end waves.
Bottom Feeder. An evolved Plank that has enhanced bottom contours, lower nose rocker, more pulled in nose, and I think slightly less rail volume in the front 1/3. This board has the speed and lift of the Plank but more control in the turns and less issues with the wide high volume nose. Covers the same low end waves as the plank but surfs best from the tail of board. Doesn't look or feel simmonsy.
The plank or bottom feeder would be your smallest wave board. The blunt or rnf would potentially occupy the middle range of a quiver below a good wave shortboard.
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WetDog
Grom
Reged: 09/06/08
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97 classic rnf is a very versatile board due to the vee through the back 1/3 and the narrower swallow tail. these features are not as pronounced in the rnf 5. These enable the rnf 97 to feel very comfortable in solid surf, more "in the wave" than "on the wave," and turn on a dime. This board seems to have a wider nose, with more rocker than rnf5. I like this board in solid chest to around head and half. This is a classic design but one that I would not consider a grovellor or mush board.
Edited by WetDog (12/24/11 06:30 PM)
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johnxyz
Legend (inyourownmind)
Reged: 02/25/04
Posts: 234
Loc: East Coast
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Thanks WetDog - excellent synopsis on this category of Lost models. Leaning toward a BottomFeeder/Plank now...
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manbearpig
Billy Hamilton status
Reged: 05/11/09
Posts: 1682
Loc: its so flat
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i think this is a classic you have to custom order it to what you want to use it for. this board can either be an awesome board for good waves when its barreling or it can be an awesome board for 1ft waves. just specify what you want to use it for in the order sheet/phone/email and it will be made for that. its a very versitile shape that it can do either side of the spectrum of waves. mine was made thinner and i asked for a more pulled in nose, thus mine worked amazing in good barreling waves. it was still good in small waves as that is what i mainly wanted it for, but it definatly took more work then a fuller board like my roberts diamond fish that is much thicker in the nose and tail and wider in both as well. if i not gone for the wider nose or thinner nsoe it would have grovelled much better. the nose on mine is the thinnest in terms of thickness out of any board i have ever had.
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Havoc
Tom Curren status
Reged: 09/10/07
Posts: 10001
Loc: The OC Life
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I vote bottom feeder for the low end range. saw that board surfed as good as an hpsb in small weak waves. likely the rider more than the board but 2 paddle takeoffs on thigh to waist high mush and hp tech turns on said waves. thing def'ly was not holding the rider back. I want one!!
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WetDog
Grom
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Ha! spot on. My grovellor has been a Plank for the last year and a half. My new Bottom Feeder is in and waiting for pick up at the shop. Next week after I get paid. Can't wait. got it in xtr for a little extra float and pop out of turns.
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Havoc
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Ha! spot on. My grovellor has been a Plank for the last year and a half. My new Bottom Feeder is in and waiting for pick up at the shop. Next week after I get paid. Can't wait. got it in xtr for a little extra float and pop out of turns.
stoked for you!!
me <--- jealous!!!
I will get one eventually depending on my job situation.
you're gonna be stoked!
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WetDog
Grom
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thanks! I can't really afford it, but my addiction is overpowering.
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manjushri
Gerry Lopez status
Reged: 01/03/09
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Loc: 638
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been scouring craigslist for days, plenty of rockets, a few rnf, couple a black sheep, a blunt, al merrick pod, black flag, ddivr, Coils, whatevs... all wrong dims..
5.8 rnf is lookin like the one.. to complement 6.1, 6.2, 6.3, 6.6 travel quiver.
Hideous airbrush and leash plug a lil too far up for me but no worrys
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WetDog
Grom
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if that board is around six inches shorter than you, it will be a blast in decent waves. I love it with no trailer. use the wing, swallow and hard rails in the tail to provide grip when needed, the MR twins will fly and be loose even at speed. You want the front foot right over the single concave, the rear back behind the wing to get the most out of this board. very fun. when I rode it with a trailer, i had less fun and started to wonder why I wasn't just riding a standard hp thruster. It's an amazing twin fin. Nothing retro about it. Enjoy it.
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SharkBoy
Michael Peterson status
Reged: 10/22/04
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here's my take on the RNF
I've had several, from 5'4 up to 5'8"
I was told to scale from 6-8 inches shorter and about an inch wider. I got a little scared thinking that was too short (on my first one, this is like ten years ago btw)so I ordered 4 inches shorter.
My normal shortboards were around 6'0 x 18 1/4 at the time, so the 5'8 was 19.5 or so.
The board wasn't as quick as a groveller, but it really caught waves well and had ridiculous amounts of drive and skate. A lot like the feel of the retro fish in that you were on your feet early and already skating. I had the big MR twins in then and that board really excelled in longboard type waves, in other words, too mushy for a shortboard but still clean and lined up was most optimal at around the stomach to shoulder high range.
I switched the fins to some normal, (I think g5), the board gained some snap at the expense of drive and skate, but went slightly better backhand, it would be a bit slidy at times. A few years later I put in the H2 larges and that was when the board performed with the greatest versatility. The cant kept the skate and held well for the carvy roundhouse cutbacks. That's basically what the board did best, trim/skate float and cruisy cutbacks.
Then I got the opportunity to go the other direction. I went for a full on 5'4 (8" shorter) x 19 3/8 x 2 1/4"
this board was best in small punchy waves knee to about stomach, it was a lot quicker, but also a lot less drivy with considerably less skate. It has fins set further back than normal (i'm guessing it was meant to be used as a twin) but because I am scared to put fins that large in a board this small, i tinkered with a lot of other sets until I eventually found the fins that put some more drive and skate back, Webber Curves. I recently started riding this one again and now love it. Like I said, knee to stomach high, and this thing can 'grovel'
I've had and tried a few more, there are some discrepancies in the model with the rail thickness and tail width. I prefer the slimmer tails and rails, otherwise they feel like a bar of soap to me
I've spent some time in Va beach and I guess I'll summarize it like this. If you surf the short peaky stuff at 1st street and Croatan, than go 8" shorter with thinner rails. If you surf the rest of Va beach go only 6" shorter and reap the benefits of the extra paddle when winter wetsuit season rolls around
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Edited by SharkBoy (12/29/11 03:10 PM)
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manjushri
Gerry Lopez status
Reged: 01/03/09
Posts: 1282
Loc: 638
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OVER IT...
I went up to the shop and the RNF was way thick for 2.25, full rails and flat deck.. they had a 5'7" that would probably have worked but i wasn't sure, so i got a ...lost MOTIVATOR..
5'7 x 19.88 x 2.25
Surfed it in chest to overhead beachbreak conditions, sick board.. super flat rocker, kinda wide, CRAZY wide tail, but it flies and will grovel good.
i will continue my hunt for a RNF, classic... you were right , the CLASSIC is the one they had a 5'5"... so sick, way better than the new one
thx for help fellas
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gkl68
Legend (inyourownmind)
Reged: 10/07/10
Posts: 393
Loc: CA
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My old motivator was also 5'7 x 19.88 x 2.25. Sick groveler!! Great choice.
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WetDog
Grom
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motivators are very fun and versatile. so much going on with that design, especially the tail area. mine likes better waves around chest to head high. I end up needing wider and flatter boards than a motivator to really grovel, due to my size.
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Dawn_patrol
Michael Peterson status
Reged: 04/17/06
Posts: 2411
Loc: HB
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The classic 97 RNF is one design that really catches my eye. Anyone able to compare it to the CI MTF? Some very similar design features with the wide point forward, double concave vee and pulled in tail. Looks like it would carve really well.
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bobsurf
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Quote:
The classic 97 RNF is one design that really catches my eye. Anyone able to compare it to the CI MTF? Some very similar design features with the wide point forward, double concave vee and pulled in tail. Looks like it would carve really well.
Surfed Seaside Reef yesterday morning on my buddy's 5'8" RNF Classic 97. Rode it as a twin, without the center trailer. Had never ridden one before, and was a bit nervous that it was too small. My MTF is 6'0" and my Twin fin GH fish is 5'10", for reference. Sets were solid head high.
My review? Wow, what a fun board that was. Much better for a semi-suckout reef than my fish, as there's not as much nose/board to get in the way. Just the right amount of loose. Snuck into a clean tube on the outer boil, and a second deep one on the inside that clipped me on the exit. Soooo close to the elusive double barrel, but stocked none the less. My buddy offered the board to me for $100, and I couldn't resist. It's a smoking deal, as he's trying to clean out his garage. Unfortunately, I'm trying to do the same  See my MTF for sale in the classified section for a smoking price. 
As for MTF comparision? In my opinion, these are two very different boards. My MTF has a lot more volume under the chest and most other places except the tail. I don't see as pronounced "Wide point forward" in the RNF as I do in the MTF. My MTF could be used as a groveler sometimes because of that forward volume (paddling). At this size, I wouldn't use my RNF for smaller/gutless days. I'll save that for my fish.
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20W-50 and blood
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Loc: SOCAL
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wondering if anyone has owned a rnfq and a black sheep...would love to hear the comparison
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goingright
Nep status
Reged: 08/10/09
Posts: 567
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Yes sir. RNF and MTF are 2 completely different boards. I think MTF is like the golf blades clubs. You have to hit it perfect for a nice shot. RNF is incredibly fast, lose and can catch anything. Freakin nuts when you can catch a wave in one end of the beach and end up on the other one...Its unbelievable how much speed the board generates.
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Dawn_patrol
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Reged: 04/17/06
Posts: 2411
Loc: HB
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Thanks Bobsurf and Goingright.
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