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Been frothing for one of these for months and a batch of em just arrived at my local shop yesterday. I am 175 lbs and was looking for a good small wave board for this summer to replace my CI Skinny Fish that I've had and loved forever. Was debating between the 5'2" and the 5'4". Daily driver is a 5'11" x 19 x 2 5/16" Fred Rubble and also ride a Neckbeard thats 5'7" x 19 1/2 x 2 5/16"
Anyway, I ended up getting the 5'2" x 21 x 2 5/8" and have ridden it twice in small mushy waves. The board has more float than my Skinny Fish, which is 5'6 x 20 x 2 1/4 and cathes waves alot easier. Board rides super skatey, but feels alot better on the backhand more tight in the pocket than a fish. Turns on a dime and I was surprised how a board so wide could do cutbacks so easily.
When I rode it last night I was also tripping on how easily I could connect to the inside, it was super mushy and it seemed like myself and people with longboards or mini logs were the only ones that could connect all the way to the inside.
I've had Lost Round Nose fishes before and I'd say its somewhat similar, but an even better grovler since its so damn wide and thick. Although super wide, the shorter length allows you to whip it around like a shortboard. I've only ridden it in 1-2ft waves so far, but that's what I mainly got it for anyway....think this would be a great summer sled for anyone
Thanks for the review. Seems like these super short&wide with deep vee/doubles grovelers are catching waves and maneuvering great! Did you have to adjust your surfing much to jump on this coming from your stub or DD? What fin setup did you like with this?
No I jumped right on the thing and it felt pretty natural. Havent ridden the others since its been so damn small here. I've been riding it as a quad, but my friend who works at the shop and got to demo em before they hit production said he liked it as a tri better. Definitely gonna give that a whirl and will update here once I do.
Quote: Seems like these super short&wide with deep vee/doubles grovelers are catching waves and maneuvering great!
they work a treat... been doing them for years... as has Andreini and a host of others...
doesn't have the media a peel of high tech "concaves", so most people overlook it, imho. Shame really. Super versatile bottom with easy transitions, almost like thought control if done well.
Quote: Seems like these super short&wide with deep vee/doubles grovelers are catching waves and maneuvering great!
they work a treat... been doing them for years... as has Andreini and a host of others...
doesn't have the media a peel of high tech "concaves", so most people overlook it, imho. Shame really. Super versatile bottom with easy transitions, almost like thought control if done well.
with a twin + trailer... yum!
welcome to the fold
Rob, could you give us some details on the vee and concaves? Have been reading up on small wave grovelers and some have said vee slows board down too much. Can you shed some light? Thx.
I guess the simple way to look at it is you need a flat rocker to generate speed in small waves. That obviously doesn't lend itself to turning easily. Adding vee increases the rail rocker through the tail, and is a natural way to get the board to initiate the turn, instead of having to dig the edge of your concave. Too much vee will cause drag. It's in the subtlety of the recipe.
Kind of like the difference between rolling an egg on your counter versus a book. Spiral vee gives the tail that little extra squirt, but flat vee works too. Mine are more like a rolled spiral vee... in a way... sort of...
thanks for the insight rob. it's amazing all the different things that go into a board working well. i found a cool pic on the js sight that shows the vee and concave. http://www.jsindustries.com/surfboards-v2/pier-pony#concave-tab i've heard a few guys talk about spiral vee, but not sure exactly what that means.
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Mooobs
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After riding it several sessions both quad and thruster, I like it as a quad better. Just faster, looser and generates more speed in the mush/flats. Probably one of my favorite summer sleds ever and super stoked on it. Highly recommended!
J-bone I was wondering what your height is? And how much you pay for the board? Ps great review looks like a fun board just don't know about going as extremes as a 5"2 lol
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I'm 5'7" @ 175...I like beer and am 35 years old, metabolism and I aren't the best of friends anymore...haha
Sperm Whales looked a little too thin for my fat butt, plus the nose and tail looked more pulled in on the Pier Ponies, which I liked better. I actually got it at ET Surf, but used to work there and got the Bro/X-Employee deal..I think they retail around $650. Sick boards!
Also forgot to mention that I've gone back and forth to my Neckbeard and Rubble when the waves have gotten better and the transitions back to these boards are smooth, meaning the Pier Pony isn't ridiculously stubby to where it makes my other boards feel like a step up or too thin, narrow, long...etc.
Quote: I'm 5'7" @ 175...I like beer and am 35 years old, metabolism and I aren't the best of friends anymore...haha
Sperm Whales looked a little too thin for my fat butt, plus the nose and tail looked more pulled in on the Pier Ponies, which I liked better. I actually got it at ET Surf, but used to work there and got the Bro/X-Employee deal..I think they retail around $650. Sick boards!
You surfed a Roberts D Fish or FW Sweet Potato per chance? If you used to work there you know Paul with Lost, Im little smaller and probably good 25lbs lighter; him and I cant get over the Sweet Potato in shvt surf. If you have do tell Im looking for a new shvt shredder in the small
Paul aka Big Torrance and I used to work together @ ET...love that guy. Yeah he always swore by the Sweet Potato, they look super fun, but never have tried one. Hope to try one soon and compare the 2. Never tried a Roberts since I'd have to pay full price for one of those...been close to pulling the trigger at Surf Concepts a couple times though.
My buddy just bought a 5'4" sweet potato. Hoping to try it and then feel up a pier pony. Looks like a 5'6" pier pony would work for me. Definitely want to pull the trigger on something for these weak summer days.
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WarrenC
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so i just picked up a 5'4 pier pony myself. Never ridden a board so short and fat before. Usually ride anything from a 5'11 in 3-6ft surf and 6'0-6'3 anything bigger.
I'm almost 180lb and 5'11. Was really weird getting onto a board so short to begin with. Today the surf sucked seriously 1ft if that and shore break. Board was amazing so easy to paddle onto a wave and generate speed is NOT a problem at all. Can really just fly over flat sections.
It got a bit of getting use to the rails. Rail to rail surfing wasn't the best. I usually ride 2 1/4 on all boards. I'm not sure if its because i was riding a quad (m5 fins) and usually ride a thruster. Going to experiment with larger fins over the weekend & into next week as the swell should roll into socal.
But was very errr should i get it. Didn't want to buy something I have never ridden and be like fark what a waste. But i wanted something that would rip in days that is just not fun and no one except for mal riders r out there. This board is awesome looking forward in seeing how it goes in better 3+ ft surf. I did notice the noise rocker is really flat so if it gets pretty sucky its going to suck (especially on some of the shore breaks today).
I would recommend everyone getting one great addition to the quiver.
Hey pier pony riders with fcs plugs, which fins would you recommend for a 172 pounder?....looking to ride as a quad, but if a tri works for you, post it up.
Quote: <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/42108795" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/42108795">The Pony at the Bluff</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/liquidambitions">Liquid Ambitions</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p> I wonder if this was surf as a quad or thruster?
I'll ask the boys at the shop and find out for you. My local point...it is indeed packed with hoardes of longboarders.
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Thanks retropete, I was suspecting that, even though the board was recommended to be be ridden as a quad. He was going pretty hard off the bottom and straight up. I have a 5'2" that is coming and getting fin set ups ready. Seems like it can ridden well as both a tri or quad. Maybe even a quad + nubster Fish face, I also have the mrtfx to try as well. Will report back in a few....
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trying to figure what the volume would be on this board
