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NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco
      #2342055 - 07/09/12 09:53 AM



Ken Block estimated worth 200 million
Kelly Slater 22 Million
Tony Hawk 180 million
Bam Margera 45 million
Shaun White 20 million

Phil Knight, the future owner of surfing, 14,400,000,000
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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: aggregate]
      #2342058 - 07/09/12 09:56 AM

I think 4 was more enjoyable to watch.

Ken Block's Gymkhana 4 - The Hollywood Megamercial from Rowo Rontek on Vimeo.



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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: aggregate]
      #2342060 - 07/09/12 09:57 AM

I've shot the first three. Just saying.

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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: FecalFace]
      #2342064 - 07/09/12 10:03 AM

Camera department.

Kings of First World Problems

Very impressive nonetheless, can you post them up here, I have to go milk some goats.


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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: aggregate]
      #2342108 - 07/09/12 11:13 AM



Everybody's seen Gymkhana 1,2,3 so here is a lesser known 'making of GK2' video series that I also cut:



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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: FecalFace]
      #2342111 - 07/09/12 11:20 AM

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I've shot the first three. Just saying.



shot them?
dude, like, what the f*ck are you even talking about?
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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: Random Guy]
      #2342115 - 07/09/12 11:27 AM

Like with a camera and lens and stuff, man.

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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: FecalFace]
      #2342123 - 07/09/12 11:39 AM

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Everybody's seen Gymkhana 1,2,3 so here is a lesser known 'making of GK2' video series that I also cut:

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/0uQ2crRhDZU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>




Did you use fcpX? It's funny cause I can only see it in 720p, why no 4k?



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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: aggregate]
      #2342124 - 07/09/12 11:39 AM

Anyone who's driven this road would crap their pants, averaging 35 mph, let alone 72 mph.



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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: frvcvs]
      #2342128 - 07/09/12 11:43 AM

FCP7 or 6 or whatever was in fashion 4 years ago.

I hate editing, I'm not one.

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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: Norm']
      #2342135 - 07/09/12 11:51 AM

Worked with both Travis and Ken when they were on Subaru before the gymkhana hype. Good times.





The original, Ari Vatanen kicking dust and dancing his way up Pike's Peak:



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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: FecalFace]
      #2342144 - 07/09/12 11:56 AM

wow, i mean, i don't know sh*t about it really, but it seems like you've got a really f*cking cool job, man
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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: Random Guy]
      #2342154 - 07/09/12 12:00 PM

I'm a lucky bastard, I'd be the first to admit.

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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: aggregate]
      #2342164 - 07/09/12 12:12 PM

Ken Block was on KROQ this morning being interviewed by Kevin & Bean, pretty witty guy. Enjoyed listening to his stories.

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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: Mo_Fo]
      #2342179 - 07/09/12 12:45 PM

I thought that this thread was going to be about:



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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: ringer]
      #2342185 - 07/09/12 12:49 PM

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I thought that this thread was going to be about:







I remember this movie.

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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: Mo_Fo]
      #2342193 - 07/09/12 12:59 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I thought that this thread was going to be about:







I remember this movie.




Yes, this whole place reminds me of a certain village in that movie...





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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: aggregate]
      #2342200 - 07/09/12 01:06 PM

Awesome video but I'm surprised SF would close down streets, bridges, docks, areas of downtown ect. so some rich asshole could play with his toys.

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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: LarryTate]
      #2342239 - 07/09/12 01:37 PM

What city won't do whatever for enough $?

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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: Mr Doof]
      #2342259 - 07/09/12 01:57 PM

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What city won't do whatever for enough $?




Indeed true. I'd be curious to see what the price tag and stipulations were for all of that e.g. clean up, power washing tire marks ect.


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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: LarryTate]
      #2342276 - 07/09/12 02:15 PM

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Awesome video but I'm surprised SF would close down streets, bridges, docks, areas of downtown ect. so some rich asshole could play with his toys.




It's not like they haven't done it before...



This is one will give C_S a raging hard-on...



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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: FecalFace]
      #2342282 - 07/09/12 02:31 PM

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The original, Ari Vatanen kicking dust and dancing his way up Pike's Peak:

<iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/J-K1B4sTX4o" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>




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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: LarryTate]
      #2342287 - 07/09/12 02:38 PM

Yea it was definitely on a sunday.. And s!ck as fvck really.. SF is a concrete skatepark, i guess for cars and bikes too now.. We jumped Gough street in a rental way back, flew out like a hundred feet and stuck it. Same dude would jump up the hills on his Harley too, going blind into 4 way stops, then he got hit one day and wrecked his bike. Hey Fecalface, what's Blocks consistency like?


...& Rich yes, but Block's definitely not an a$$hole been down for the cause since day 1, brush up on your history b4 you talk sh!t, clown.

http://www.sbcskateboard.com/features_article?news_id=2338

First 8-ball then Droors with Danny Way's brother, DC, DUB, Type A, Edward Sebastian save Plan B and PD..

The design sh!t they were doin was top-notch, always super clean. Block was a big part of it too, designed the first Dyrdeks i think. This guy Kinsey who's a s!ck a$$ graphic artist, designed most of the logos for these companies.. He stole the idea for the DC logo from an australian rugby team.. Later to get $.01 for every time it was used, if you look at one DC shoe, it says DC about 20 times on it.

KB created the mega ramps and all that stuff with D Way too.. great wall..




Droors had some classic ads back in the day:





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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: manjushri]
      #2342292 - 07/09/12 02:47 PM

The jump where he lands sideways and then drifts at 9:51 into it is just jaw dropping. Incredible. That is performance driving at it's finest.

Wow. I mean just fvcking "Wow."
Nuts. Awesome. Thanks for sharing that, man.

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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: LarryTate]
      #2342295 - 07/09/12 02:50 PM

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What city won't do whatever for enough $?




Indeed true. I'd be curious to see what the price tag and stipulations were for all of that e.g. clean up, power washing tire marks ect.




I am sure they stipulated that Red Bull would have to be supplied free to all the Supervisor and Mayoral meetings for the next few years while swirly tire marks gets pass.

The location edits weren't too bad, though the jump from after the reverse-direction-faux-Lombard to the Twin Peaks car commerical curves made me sigh a little.

Were all the location/scene openings truly all done in one morning?


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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: Mo_Fo]
      #2342298 - 07/09/12 02:51 PM

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The jump where he lands sideways and then drifts at 9:51 into it is just jaw dropping. Incredible. That is performance driving at it's finest.




Hats off to the guys who made that tire and rim on the leading driver's side rear tire.


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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: manjushri]
      #2342367 - 07/09/12 04:27 PM

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...& Rich yes, but Block's definitely not an a$$hole been down for the cause since day 1, brush up on your history b4 you talk sh!t, clown.




Believe me, I'm well aware of who Ken Block is and if it makes you feel better I've never liked DC shoes. Always found them boxy and thick so I couldn't feel the board through them. But that's just me. I was more of a function over fashion kind of skateboarder back in the H-Street days up through a few years back.

I must have missed that he's been "down for the cause" since day 1 though. I guess he gets a pass then.


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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: aggregate]
      #2342380 - 07/09/12 04:55 PM

diamond plate and the dildo handbrakes is the name of my new band.

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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: manjushri]
      #2342393 - 07/09/12 05:24 PM

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Hey Fecalface, what's Blocks consistency like?




I'll let you count the tire marks.



Ken is a perfectionist, he normally takes couple of practice runs, if there are immovable objects around maybe more until he figures out the surface and until he's happy with what speed and gear he needs to be in. If it's a high risk scene we'd roll cameras on practice runs too. Both GK2 and 3 went from budgeted 3 days of shooting to 5.
In GK2 it was the Timmy scene that took the longest, he pulled it of perfect after a few tries but the light wasn't right to match the rest of the scenes so we had to reshoot the next day. We also had a pyrotechnics timing fail for the closing explosion scene and had to reshoot.
In GK3 we had to battle rain at first, then he totaled the car hitting the k-rail. Had to go back to France for another 2 days to finish.



Closing a city street is way cheaper than you'd think, and getting police and ITC is stupidly cheap.
Laying tire marks is a definite no-no in San Diego county from couple of commercials I shot here, I don't know about SF, I'd be surprised if the city knew what was going to go down.
The worst one in that respect was GK3 shot at the historic oval track in France with 51 degree banks, they apparently didn't have a clue what was going to happen even though they saw the previous GK videos.... they've had a freshly resurfaced banks with sensors underneath them (testing ground for Citroën and Peugeot)....





Most of my work involves working with rich people and Ken is one of the nicest, down to earth guys I know. With enormous amount of self-confidence and talent of course. Marketing talent included.



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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: FecalFace]
      #2342433 - 07/09/12 07:04 PM

I love this sh!t!! great stuff FF - how many sets of tires is he going through?

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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: FecalFace]
      #2342438 - 07/09/12 07:14 PM

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Most of my work involves working with rich people and Ken is one of the nicest, down to earth guys I know. With enormous amount of self-confidence and talent of course. Marketing talent included.






wonder then who inflated DC's value found out after Quiksilver bought them


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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: FecalFace]
      #2342495 - 07/09/12 09:06 PM

FecalFace, do you know how much it cost to get the permits, setups, etc. for that production? (And I'm not criticizing; I'm just curious.) It can be very hard to get a building permit for a backyard sunroom addition in certain parts of SF.

The guy has driving skills, that's for sure.


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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: ringer]
      #2342505 - 07/09/12 09:31 PM

Production permits are not difficult.
The prices are kept low to attract filming to the area. Money is made off payroll taxes, equipment taxes, local restaurants, hotel occupancy......

Compared to the costs of hiring fecalface, his crew, renting camera, props, lighting,grips, cops,location fees, ambulances, caterers, snacks, teamsters, directors, designers.....the film permits are dirt cheap.

Google "film la fees" and the PDF at the top will give you an idea.

My cousins brother is friends with a movie guy.

No one gives a sh#$, and I am just saying, about your sunroom because they are not making a lot of $ off it. So you will jump through hoops.

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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: ringer]
      #2342523 - 07/09/12 10:16 PM

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FecalFace, do you know how much it cost to get the permits, setups, etc. for that production? (And I'm not criticizing; I'm just curious.) It can be very hard to get a building permit for a backyard sunroom addition in certain parts of SF.

The guy has driving skills, that's for sure.




I'm not a producer so I can't give you exact figures but aggregate painted a fairly accurate picture for you. Some cities are more difficult to work with than others.
GK3 was originally planned to be filmed in Detroit after Ken signed with Ford, which everybody thought would be very easy to get the permits in, considering the city's state of disrepair (and despair) but most requests for permits got rejected because apparently Detroit doesn't like to project a picture of a derelict city to the world. The idea was to shoot at the old Ford factory, train station and other modern abandoned ruins. Oddly this is Detroit's biggest attraction at the moment, to the hipsters at least. Go figure.



So the production moved on to France.



To get a few cops on motorcycles and intermittent traffic control in downtown San Diego and Point Loma for this commercial cost literally a few hundred dollars.



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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: LarryTate]
      #2342527 - 07/09/12 10:31 PM

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...& Rich yes, but Block's definitely not an a$$hole been down for the cause since day 1, brush up on your history b4 you talk sh!t, clown.



Believe me, I'm well aware of who Ken Block is and if it makes you feel better I've never liked DC shoes. Always found them boxy and thick so I couldn't feel the board through them. But that's just me. I was more of a function over fashion kind of skateboarder back in the H-Street days up through a few years back.

I must have missed that he's been "down for the cause" since day 1 though. I guess he gets a pass then.







Yea, mock me dude, & i never had DC's either. i called you out cuz your saying the guy who enabled plenty of skaters to go beyond their next level is an a$$hole. Anyway now you got me thinking, what other shoe company has done as much for skating? Etnies? Lakai? IPath? now Nike? What shoes did you wear? Vans? Vans is a BMX shoe that stumbled into skateboarding, but you know that too.


Whatever, eff skating you quit anyway.. these drift vids are sick. I saw the first one a while back but missed these others..

Thanks Fecal for breakin it down. You know Tobin? i just found out he shot some of the SF one and helped put it together.


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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: aggregate]
      #2342609 - 07/10/12 05:25 AM

I just watched this for like the 10th time

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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: 23rdstMB]
      #2342660 - 07/10/12 08:18 AM

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I love this sh!t!! great stuff FF - how many sets of tires is he going through?




A lot but not as many as you'd think. Depending on the surface and the temperature.
At the end of Gymkhana 3 you can see in (almost) real time how long it takes to shred the tires to the rims by doing donuts. You'd often find melted pieces of rubber stuck to the various parts of the camera.

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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: FecalFace]
      #2342663 - 07/10/12 08:22 AM

Which shots were you doing?

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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: ifallalot]
      #2342668 - 07/10/12 08:31 AM

One of the two cameras on the previous KB projects.

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Re: NSR Gymkhana 5 Ken Block in San Fransisco [Re: FecalFace]
      #2342682 - 07/10/12 08:52 AM

When he's drifting that car it sounds exactly like my guts after chili and beer night. With the puffs of fire coming from the tailpipe too.

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