bock
Billy Hamilton status
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Loc: ca
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http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/hollywoodceleb/
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bock
Billy Hamilton status
Reged: 04/24/01
Posts: 1501
Loc: ca
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do it! Or email thewestwing@nbc.com and get Sheen out of real life politics.
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Waldo
Duke status
Reged: 01/24/02
Posts: 16016
Loc: Back to the Beach
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I still don't understand, bock:
Why don't you want to allow Martin Sheen the right to express his views?
Why do you take it so personally that he does?
I have a hard time believing that you wouldn't use whatever voice you have to express your own political views, just as you do here on a daily basis.
As another Hollywood liberal, Jeanine Garofalo (sp?) replied (and I'm paraphrasing here)
Talk show host: What makes you think you're qualified to comment on politics?
JG: You guys booked me here.
If the media wants to show up to a press conference and tape him, so be it. If you don't like it, turn it off. Just like the BB is open to your posts, but we don't have to read them if we don't want to.
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johnnyf
Nep status
Reged: 05/24/02
Posts: 589
Loc: the land of milk and honey, ok...
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i think sheen has done enough to keep himself out of real life politics
as has garofalo and the others that speak from their a$$e$
i've said before i don't feel fired up enough by the anti war movement (only anti-war regarding iraq) not afghanistan or anywhere else to address their nonsensical arguments beyond voicing my opinions here on the bb
if i believed that their rantings were likely to have an effect on the decision making of the government i might act differently but now i feel more sorry for them than anything else
besides they're just saying what they say to highlight themselves and maintain a high profile
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bock
Billy Hamilton status
Reged: 04/24/01
Posts: 1501
Loc: ca
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other contacts at NBC
chairman - robert.wright@nbc.com
president/COO - andrew.lack@nbc.com
programming president - jeff.zucker@nbc.com.
Spread the word and let the emails fly.
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craigj532
Kelly Slater status
Reged: 11/09/02
Posts: 7720
Loc: Honolulu, HI
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Do it! Protest because there aren't any unqualified, ill-informed conservatives who use the media to espouse their political viewpoints!
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tyrez
Rabbitt Bartholomew status
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Posts: 8707
Loc: Big Blue Marble
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craigj532
Kelly Slater status
Reged: 11/09/02
Posts: 7720
Loc: Honolulu, HI
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No really, I think this is a great idea. Let's write and/or call the employer of anyone who dares speak his/her opinions in public. Let's encourage those employers to shut up the people who work for them, and if they can't do that, to fire them. That's what America is all about!
Now, if I could only get my hands on Bock's boss's email address.
[ February 26, 2003, 03:20 PM: Message edited by: craigj532 ]
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Spray92109
Duke status
Reged: 01/10/02
Posts: 12253
Loc: San Diego, CA, USA
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Tyrez- Love the pic! So much appropriate detail!
"In glorious black and white!" Love the swastika background and all. Stoked!
But, back to the topic...
Hey everybody! If you step back a little and get past the immediate issue (war in Iraq), I think you may find something of real value here.
Bock appears to be reacting, as many of us have in many ways, to what appears to be a serious erosion of democratic principles. Or maybe it's no erosion at all, just SNAFU. At any rate, the feeling that any debate about this serious matter that counts happens between groups of people who live in a world of privelege and a seeming lack of accountability, is very real, and I think, legit.
On the one side, you have people like George W Bush, who frankly couldn't have been a self-made man, and his well-connected sidekick Dick Cheney apparently getting backroom cash from a big oil/defense contractor, and on the other, you have people like Martin Sheen, whose idea of a hard day's work is, well, ACTING, for ungodly sums of money.
Where are the rest of us in this?
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tyrez
Rabbitt Bartholomew status
Reged: 01/10/02
Posts: 8707
Loc: Big Blue Marble
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Gore Vidal was right when he said: "What we have in this country is socialism for the rich and free enterprise for the poor."
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Spray92109
Duke status
Reged: 01/10/02
Posts: 12253
Loc: San Diego, CA, USA
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quote:
Originally posted by tyrez:
Gore Vidal was right when he said: "What we have in this country is socialism for the rich and free enterprise for the poor."
Smart guy.
Funny thing how people as diverse as Ariana Huffington, PJ O'Rourke, Bill Maher, even Ann Coulter at times, agree on lots of this stuff, but no one in power gives a crap because it's not the 1%ers who read or watch...
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Waldo
Duke status
Reged: 01/24/02
Posts: 16016
Loc: Back to the Beach
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It's the meeting of capitalism and free speech.
Those with the most capital get to speak the most freely. ![[Roll Eyes]](images/icons/rolleyes.gif)
Not perfect, but I'll still take it over most of the alternatives. And I still fail to see why bock or anyone else should be so upset if one person makes effective use of the system. There's plenty of that going on on both sides of the issue.
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cazart
Michael Peterson status
Reged: 12/16/02
Posts: 2806
Loc: Parkside, son! What!?
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"Computers can DO that???" - H. Simpson
This whole communications revolution has something to do with it, too. People of wildly varying backgrounds and belief systems who never would've come into contact with one another are now smashing into each other like bumper cars. When you show a goatherder from Mazar-I-Sharif an episode of "Baywatch," on satellite, it probably tweaks him a little.
Same goes for the Orange County Young Republican who gets Arianna's column forwarded to his email by accident.
If Richard Gere made a dumb comment and no one were there to hear him, did he make a sound?
That's the thing. Everything everyone says, thinks, poops, whatever...is now up for public consumption. There's something to outrage everyone. Bock just happens to be outraged by ill-informed celebrities who use their fame to speak a little louder than the rest of us.
IMHO, there's plenty more important issues to waste your time and energy on. But that's just me.
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