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Just got a new 9'6" poly Robert August "What I Ride" Log for the micro ankle high days and for my Bro who's just learning/re-learning how to surf. Got an insane deal (40% off brand new poly w/standard airbrush). Board has single box w/ side bites. I'm gonna run it as a single fin and I don't have too much longboarding experience. What fin would you guys suggest? Thanks y'all
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Edited by Havoc (01/02/09 11:28 PM)
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Basswave
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I've been riding one of these on a 9'4"x22 pulled square tail and it's been fun.
Is this a 'pivot' fin, not sure of the official terminology here, but it definitely seems to prefer a more traditional tail-based riding style on a bigger board.
I got mine from Fibre Glas Fin Co.
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Some really love the Farberow Flex -- I was among them for a while, but once I switched to this, there was no turning back. Either Tyler's traditional or Riddler fin is just sick...seriously.
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Quote: Some really love the Farberow Flex -- I was among them for a while, but once I switched to this, there was no turning back. Either Tyler's traditional or Riddler fin is just sick...seriously.
Intresting...I was just Talking about this today with Tyler's web master who I just came back from Mollusk in NY from today.
I could be splitting hair here but in the old school style camp of longboarding I think you could break down in to two camps.
1. Some of the Takayama's, Anderson's, RA's. ect
Then the more extreme camp.
2. Tyler, Cooperfish, Hunt...
If you going more extreme then the Tyler fins are a big win.
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I took a long break from these types of boards, but the recent slow down in So Cal action has called me back.. damn I forgot how much fun a big ass heavy log with a big ass fin can be.
Such a good time -- no compromising, go all the way.
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yeah, my log has saved the winter surfwise for me... but at the expense of my shortboard surfing (can't catch a wave for my life). This robert august board is very neautral and forgiving. Stable on the nose, can't wait to ride it as a singlefin.
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I'm not sure on the design of that board but if its set up as a 2 + 1, its probably more modern or performance oriented. The farberow flex or the harbour performance fin would work better. For more traditional boards with eggier rails I'd say go pivit style fin.
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I have a Tyler 305 (squash/square) and an Oak Foils pintail. The Tyler is 9'6, the Oak is 9'9. They're both about 3 1/8" thick but really foiled out in the rails.
The Tyler is 10+6 / 10 volan (which is standard) and the Oak is 8+6 / 8 volan. The Tyler has the fin above and I ride a Tyler Riddler fin (which is pretty darn similar unless you're Josh Farberow or Tyler) in the Oak.
The biggest difference between the two by far is the tail. If you are thinking about a log, you MUST try a few different tails to figure out what you like. I'm still in the "getting used to it" phase with the pintail. When it's a big clean face, the pintail is amazing -- but at Porto or something where there's a need for a quick turn, I feel like I'm doing convulsions to get that board to turn right without catching a rail and toppling over. I have a long way to go.
The Oak is a VERY fast board and when I'm dialed, I really feel a lot of momentum through turns and powering it around. It's amazing how relatively little movement on a log can feel so gratifying because you're pushing around such a heavy-ass object.
The Tyler is a stable sidewalk. It really is an amazing board and gives that sensation of levitation and glide. It sounds a bit nutty, but when you get the back foot thing nailed on a Griffin, it's a similar "above the water" type of feel. The Tyler has a unique glide / levitation thing going on and when it's on, it is just insane.
Now the irony is that while both these are heavy volan logs, neither are really pure traditionalist from a 1960's standpoint. Both boards have sooo many tweaks to their rocker, rails, concaves, etc that have brought them into the modern age. Tyler and Oak have been tweaking logs for 20 years each... and so with that, they're both quite progressive.
Quote: I have a Tyler 305 (squash/square) and an Oak Foils pintail. The Tyler is 9'6, the Oak is 9'9. They're both about 3 1/8" thick but really foiled out in the rails.
The Tyler is 10+6 / 10 volan (which is standard) and the Oak is 8+6 / 8 volan. The Tyler has the fin above and I ride a Tyler Riddler fin (which is pretty darn similar unless you're Josh Farberow or Tyler) in the Oak.
The biggest difference between the two by far is the tail. If you are thinking about a log, you MUST try a few different tails to figure out what you like. I'm still in the "getting used to it" phase with the pintail. When it's a big clean face, the pintail is amazing -- but at Porto or something where there's a need for a quick turn, I feel like I'm doing convulsions to get that board to turn right without catching a rail and toppling over. I have a long way to go.
The Oak is a VERY fast board and when I'm dialed, I really feel a lot of momentum through turns and powering it around. It's amazing how relatively little movement on a log can feel so gratifying because you're pushing around such a heavy-ass object.
The Tyler is a stable sidewalk. It really is an amazing board and gives that sensation of levitation and glide. It sounds a bit nutty, but when you get the back foot thing nailed on a Griffin, it's a similar "above the water" type of feel. The Tyler has a unique glide / levitation thing going on and when it's on, it is just insane.
Now the irony is that while both these are heavy volan logs, neither are really pure traditionalist from a 1960's standpoint. Both boards have sooo many tweaks to their rocker, rails, concaves, etc that have brought them into the modern age. Tyler and Oak have been tweaking logs for 20 years each... and so with that, they're both quite progressive.
this is NOT the red quad EPS Oak monster from earlier this (last) year I assume, eh?
There's a million fins out there. Part of the fun is experimenting.....seeing what works best. When I do log I ride a traditional 9'6" triple stringer or 9'2" square tail noserider. If you're gonna walk the nose, cheat 5, hang ten....etc... I tend to like the wider based templates such as that tyler or even a hatchet 10' fin. If you're looking for an all round fin go with a 9.5" with more rake. Just my .02
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dude im sorry...but what the hell does a refined singel fin logdo that an unrefined singel fin log doesnt? what kinda of progressive riding are we talkign abotu ehre? I dont wanna talk cr@p but come on..,
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I have a 9'6" heavy (heavy-ish) soft diamond tail with a 8 + 6 top 8 bottom (the 8's are volan) but I have to say that board it pretty much reserved for summer.
I have tried a few of Tylers models and have to say He is quite the craftsman.
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Quote: dude im sorry...but what the hell does a refined singel fin logdo that an unrefined singel fin log doesnt? what kinda of progressive riding are we talkign abotu ehre? I dont wanna talk [Email]cr@p[/Email] but come on..,
No worries. Sometimes I am skeptical myself.
However, I can't help but wonder, isn't this like asking what a 70's era keel fish does versus a Zippifish keel? One represents decades of small tweaks to a single design. It may take a very experienced shaper or surfer to notice all the subtleties, but there are constantly evolving thoughts on bottom contours, rail shape, fin placement, foam density, glassing, etc -- these are not static views.
In fact, in Single Fin Yellow, Tyler tells the world that his entire focus on shaping is to effectively pretend there was not a shortboard revolution and to project where a traditional longboard would have evolved to, if it had been a consistent focus of the entire shaping community.
There is without a doubt a considerable difference in an old skool log and a high performance long board. And when riding either of them you can tell a difference with even the slightest fin adjustments. My 9'6" turns like a coffee table with a Hatchet fin but holds a nose ride better than my raked fins....just depends on the conditions on the fin selection.
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