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Shwuz
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It all makes sense now.
      #1612064 - 06/16/09 07:00 PM



In a nutshell, incompetent people don't know how incompetent they are... The very deficit which makes them incompetent also makes them unable to judge their own level of aptitude. They don't know how much they suck because of how much they suck. Suck squared.

Brilliant. It's like the whole world makes sense now.


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Re: It all makes sense now. [Re: Shwuz]
      #1612119 - 06/16/09 08:32 PM

Thanks for the self-education. I'd like to endorse consideration of this video in that light for everyone who watches it and feels confident about anything at all, including you, me, and the english blob in it.

My new term for those who can't stop themselves from whatever or who can't shut up in life or on the internet is "Carradine."

Use this in a self-deprecating sense or to ridicule others, at your own risk, of course.

Alternately, you may use the silent version: mock-wanking while holding your other fist above your head, with your tongue extended, and optionally, eyes crossed.

**Needed: "Carridine" emoticon.**

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Re: It all makes sense now. [Re: Shwuz]
      #1612154 - 06/16/09 10:06 PM

So, Shwuz, where does this put you?

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Re: It all makes sense now. [Re: Shwuz]
      #1612162 - 06/16/09 10:30 PM

Quote:

In a nutshell, incompetent people don't know how incompetent they are... The very deficit which makes them incompetent also makes them unable to judge their own level of aptitude. They don't know how much they suck because of how much they suck. Suck squared.

Brilliant. It's like the whole world makes sense now.




May I distill it for you?
It's called the "Peter Principal".


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Re: It all makes sense now. [Re: ratfink]
      #1612165 - 06/16/09 10:41 PM

But, the more you think people suck... doesn't that come back to you, like, you think you suck?

So we thrash at the world outside our bodies, outside our direct realm of control. Why, where does that get us?

Do you curse the sea, when she delivers slop? She's just the sea. Being her.

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Re: It all makes sense now. [Re: ratfink]
      #1612228 - 06/17/09 07:12 AM

Quote:

Quote:

In a nutshell, incompetent people don't know how incompetent they are... The very deficit which makes them incompetent also makes them unable to judge their own level of aptitude. They don't know how much they suck because of how much they suck. Suck squared.

Brilliant. It's like the whole world makes sense now.




May I distill it for you?
It's called the "Peter Principal".




Hmmm, not really... The peter principal has less to do with one's own perception of their abilities, and more with their actual functional competence as it relates to their job. The peter principal says that a competent worker will keep getting promoted until reaching a position for which he is no longer competent, and from there won't be promoted any more. It's really more a commentary on corporate environments.

This, the "Dunning-Kruger effect", is about meta-awareness, and how the least competent are least able to judge their actual level of competence. They think they're just as competent as everyone else, when in reality they're far below the norm.

To answer your first post, Nep, I think I'm equally as competent as everyone else. Since in the experiment everyone's self-assessment was roughly the same, you can't extrapolate from that.

To kind of answer your second post, this has really been a liberating revelation for me. I used to get frustrated at what I saw as willful ignorance, "how can you be that incompetent and not want to improve?". But with the understanding that the incompetent don't actually know that they're incompetent, I can take a more compassionate attitude towards it.

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Re: It all makes sense now. [Re: Shwuz]
      #1612231 - 06/17/09 07:17 AM

See, I've always known I was a dumb-ass...



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Re: It all makes sense now. [Re: GWS]
      #1612249 - 06/17/09 07:48 AM

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See, I've always known I was a dumb-ass...






And knowing is half the battle

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Re: It all makes sense now. [Re: Doppelgangster]
      #1612253 - 06/17/09 07:57 AM

Quote:

Quote:

See, I've always known I was a dumb-ass...






And knowing is half the battle




I know I'M half way to the healing now


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Re: It all makes sense now. [Re: Shwuz]
      #1612259 - 06/17/09 08:25 AM

you think you're better than eunice, don't you

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Re: It all makes sense now. [Re: Random Guy]
      #1612273 - 06/17/09 09:21 AM

you're all idiots

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Re: It all makes sense now. [Re: GWS]
      #1612277 - 06/17/09 09:39 AM

Quote:

See, I've always known I was a dumb-ass...




I always thought you were.

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Re: It all makes sense now. [Re: Shwuz]
      #1612287 - 06/17/09 09:47 AM



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Re: It all makes sense now. [Re: Osgood_Fielding_III]
      #1612292 - 06/17/09 09:54 AM



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Re: It all makes sense now. [Re: Osgood_Fielding_III]
      #1612297 - 06/17/09 10:02 AM

Quote:

Quote:

See, I've always known I was a dumb-ass...




I always thought you were.




Yeah, THAT was witty...

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