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Oceanslide
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Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics
      #1788463 - 04/02/10 01:11 PM

OK...finally got this board into some good waves this morning
and now have about 7-8 sessions on it in a pretty good
range of conditions. Figured it's time to post up an actual
official rider review, so here goes...

Rider:
6'3", 205ish lbs., 32 years old, and surf anywhere from 2-5
times per week, 90% of the time at local beachbreaks with
the rest of the sessions usually at reef/beachbreaks south
of here. Intermediate ability with plenty of kook moments
mixed in with flashes of competence from time to time.
Have surfed mostly fish and 'alternative' type designs over
the past few years with the odd session on a 'shortboard'
when the waves have some juice.

Background:
This is the 6th board I've owned that has been designed by
Sean Mattison, with the last three being customs ordered
directly from him under this Von Sol label ( http://vonsolsurfboards.blogspot.com/ ).
Every one of them has worked better for me than most other boards I've owned.

The Board:
The 'Shadow' was designed by Mattison as a board that
hopefully helps answer the question (in his words) of "What's
next after the fish?". Basically you have the front half
of a fish very similar to his other fish designs, with the
rear half consisting of an elevated wing (e-wing) leading
into a foiled-out rounded pin tail. Sean told me the e-wing
was something he used to have on the bonzers he rode a while
back, that he's always dug, providing somewhat of a release
point during turns.
This board is 6'2" x 20 7/8" x 2 5/8", EPS/Epoxy, which
came out incredibly light, even for the amount of foam it
packs.
Went with a 5-fin setup and have found so far that I really
dig it as a twin+trailer setup, which I'm sticking with
for now.

The Ride:

Simply put, I'm LOVING this board! The best way I can
describe it is this...it has all of the biggest benefits
of a 'fish', these being great paddling and wave-catching,
early and immediate planing, speed right out of the gates,
and ability to beat sections unlike a shortboard (for me),
but the ability to really lay into sections and turns that
is generally only found in a shortboard. In junky surf,
it's fast and playful enough that you can throw it up off
of sections for floaters, get around crumbly sections to
find a face to turn, and generally have more fun than the
surf would normally indicate.
In good waves, which I found out about today, the thing
handles steeper drops very comfortably, is faster than $hit,
and LOVES to be turned HARD in the pocket. The board goes
rail-to-rail really, really smoothly...moreso than any fish-
type design I've ever tried, and wants to do full-rail
wraparounds and S-turns with little to no loss of speed,
in more critical parts of the wave than my past fishies.
In the short time I've had the board, 2 people (one being
the designer of the board, the other someone who has
probably seen me surf more than anyone over the past couple
of years) have told me I did the best turn they've ever
seen me do. Today I had a couple of overhead clean lefts
that I was able to do 3 straight hard and smooth gouges off
of the top in a row, something unheard of for me.
Backside, it goes just as well. Allows you to come off the
bottom as hard as you want into a turn, or take a quick
high-line pump just as well, all with more than enough SPEED.
Quite simply, this board is continually putting a smile on
my face, which is the point, right?

Highly, highly recommend this design as a very versatile
and FUN shape for 90% of the waves you're likely to come
across here in SoCal.











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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: Oceanslide]
      #1788477 - 04/02/10 01:32 PM

great review! What is the difference vis a vis BKQ?

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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: Oceanslide]
      #1788480 - 04/02/10 01:36 PM

I'm sold. Now I know what I'll be getting next!

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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: Oceanslide]
      #1788681 - 04/02/10 06:20 PM

that's sweet its working out best as a twin + trailer. Have you tried it out as a straight thruster?

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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: ifallalot]
      #1788729 - 04/02/10 07:23 PM

Compared to a BKQ (or Moonfish), I'd say the Shadow is more
carvey and flowing, rather than skatey, although you still
have that unmistakeable Mattison fish feel and the board
still skates across the face. Whereas hard turns on the
fish might feel a bit more 'flicky' and possibly get a bit
loose and sketchy at times, I've yet to feel like this
board has skipped/slipped/lost the grip of the wave face.
I love the feel of both designs, but right now I'm really
digging how solid and buttery smooth this one is feeling.

Pato, you will not be disappointed.

FYI...here's the fin setup that I'm really digging right
now, plus a bit better outline pic. Haven't tried it as
a thruster, but don't really want to mess with a good thing
yet!







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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: Oceanslide]
      #1788742 - 04/02/10 07:40 PM

great review o-slide!!! Stoked for you!!


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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: Oceanslide]
      #1788796 - 04/02/10 08:53 PM

Great review Joey
Stoked you are loving the new board.
I was checking one out with no fins installed and that
thing has some tail rocker kicked out the back.

What fins are you using? what depth mains around 4.65"
Is that a GX or G1000 in the back?

Har_ _ _ was SO FUN Today


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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: sdsurfrat]
      #1788821 - 04/02/10 09:34 PM

Quote:



What fins are you using? what depth mains around 4.65"
Is that a GX or G1000 in the back?





Aurora quad fronts (5.1"), with a GS trailer.

Quote:



Har_ _ _ was SO FUN Today





No joke!

Quote:


What's next after a Fish.. Yep, that about sums it up




Certainly fitting, I think.

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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: Oceanslide]
      #1788828 - 04/02/10 09:44 PM

Nice review as always O-slide. It looks like the board to get! I thought that thing was meant to be surfed as a quad, but the big sides and a trailer stoking you out huh!!!

You still surfin the other Von Sol shapes? I'm still loving my BKQ for small stuff, but your reviews of the moonfish got me wishing I could order one.


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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: sakana_kid]
      #1788842 - 04/02/10 10:20 PM

A concise review.
Not to be a d1ck but who shaped/finished it? I get that Sean "designed" it with Max McDonald's / Malcolm's e-wing as inspiration but who's the guy that finished it? He deserves a shout out. Good color choice.


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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: emissions]
      #1788853 - 04/02/10 11:18 PM

Mr. Brown? He does deserve a shout out, been finishing all these Mattison boards with no props

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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: gasol]
      #1788872 - 04/02/10 11:52 PM

who dat?

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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: Oceanslide]
      #1788913 - 04/03/10 05:17 AM

Oslide, where did you get those fins? Never seen them before.
Bottom contours?

Edited by Mudshark (04/03/10 05:19 AM)


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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: emissions]
      #1788937 - 04/03/10 07:39 AM

Mattison actually hand-shaped the first Shadow. Wanted to
try something different...wasn't sure how it would end up...
ended up being SUPER stoked on the board and now you have
the 'Shadow' model. Glad he did.
Not positive who finished this board, but I do believe Dave
Brown, longtime local shaper, has had a hand in many of
Mattison's designs and finishing. Props!

Got these fins from a friend, but I believe you can get
them from Catalyst, as I found info about them on their
site.
Bottom is a single to pretty substantial double through
the fins, much like most of Sean's other fish bottoms. For
some reason though, this board doesn't seem quite as back-
foot dependant as a BKQ, for example. You can pump forward
and even trim from the middle through sections or soft spots.

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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: Oceanslide]
      #1788988 - 04/03/10 10:43 AM

As a Quad I would try:
M7's and flat sided GX's in glassflex
and buckle up your seatbelt..
ultrafast and it will turn


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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: Oceanslide]
      #1789459 - 04/04/10 01:50 PM

This board has me drooling. I have a couple questions for ya...

1) Can the tail break loose easily? I'm under the impression that deep double concave gives lots of speed with added hold.

2) Any recommendations for a Futures thruster setup for a 5'9 155lb rider?


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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: Schwack1]
      #1792724 - 04/08/10 11:51 PM

Sorry...just got back into town.
1) To me, the tail doesn't really feel like it wants
to get loose...more of a carving/arcing feel, although
I've seen Mattison break it loose a bunch.
2) Not too familar with many Futures sets, although I'd
think the VF 437 with hatchet trailer would work well?


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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: Oceanslide]
      #1793363 - 04/09/10 11:56 PM

Sean dropped off 4 of these Shadow things at the factory today so if anyone is interested in a poly version feel free to contact me. We got a 5'8", 5'10". 6'0" and a 6'2"


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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: TRI FINS ARE DANGEROUS]
      #1793487 - 04/10/10 10:42 AM


Look forward to seeing the Moonlight-ed versions.
Word has it you have a personal on the way too. Post up
your thoughts when you have a chance to give it a go.

It's still pretty early for me, but so far I'm going to say
that this is one of the best overall designs I've owned.

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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: TRI FINS ARE DANGEROUS]
      #1796869 - 04/16/10 02:30 PM

OK...been riding a shortboard for the past 6 sessions
straight before today. Missed this board, so I surfed
it this morning in low-tide, mostly closed out and often
sucking-up drainers...not what you'd think would be ideal
for this design. I had a blast! Realized from the first
wave why I missed the board. Can get in early, handle a
steep drop, hold well in the tube, or just haul arse across
a bowly section.
Bottom line is, it'll work in just about anything I'm going
to come across locally, and work damn well.
Favorite board, hands down.

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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: Oceanslide]
      #1797796 - 04/19/10 08:16 AM

Where you using the Twin Fin setup? with trailer? That's the set up that Sean has been using, and I got to put Fins in mine. I was going to use 7's up front and GX center to start.

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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: Oceanslide]
      #1797797 - 04/19/10 08:17 AM

It's a 6'2" EPS

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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: TRI FINS ARE DANGEROUS]
      #1797818 - 04/19/10 09:13 AM

what's the WxT on the 6'2?

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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: NJL]
      #1798010 - 04/19/10 03:15 PM

Quote:

Where you using the Twin Fin setup? with trailer? That's the set up that Sean has been using, and I got to put Fins in mine. I was going to use 7's up front and GX center to start.




I've been running the twin+trailer setup in the pics above,
right on the shaper's dots (roughly centered in the boxes).
If you can get your hands on a larger (5"+) set of twins
and a small trailer, I'd recommend trying that. Been money
for me and I really don't feel the need to fark with it,
although at some point I'll try some quad setups.

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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: Oceanslide]
      #1799737 - 04/22/10 11:22 AM

after checking out O'slides board and weighing my options I decided to go for an EPS Von Sol Shadow... It looks like a quiver killer to me. Stoked!
I'm 6'0" / 185+.... Went with a 6'0 x 20.5 x 2.5 - 5 fins - light grey spray (which will look good with the red fins)... I could have gone smaller but I really like these dimensions on my small wave boards...
JP at Moonlight has some poly versions of the shadow... Hit him up.

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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: FishFace]
      #1800415 - 04/23/10 10:50 AM

Nice!
Surfed mine today in peaky and clean, but sorta fat-high-
tidey waves and the board just ate that $hit up.
Equally fun frontside and backside and I'm doing better
turns (all relative, of course)than on just about any board ever.


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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: Oceanslide]
      #1805165 - 05/01/10 05:09 PM

Surfed this board the last two session with BKQ quad setup.
Still fast as $hit, turns feel very solid, and feels like
it would probably be a great setup for pushing the board
in bigger and/or punchier conditions. Had one left that
seemed to line up all the way down the beach, overhead, and
I didn't think I had a chance to make it far. Did two high
pumps and held onto my arse as I flew by 3 sections that
threatened to close out on my head. Pretty blown away.
I'll probably run it as the twin+trailer for most conditions,
but nice to know it'll go great, with plenty of hold, when
the waves have more juice.


If I was able to actually keep myself from wanting to try
everything, I'd say this board is as close as I've ever
had to a "quiver killer", especially with the option to
go with multiple fin configs.

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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: Oceanslide]
      #1805181 - 05/01/10 06:27 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7RalTNrCA4

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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: hyper2]
      #1805197 - 05/01/10 07:29 PM

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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: Oceanslide]
      #1805213 - 05/01/10 08:32 PM

oceanslide,

do you know if von sol will be at the ab3?


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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: retodd]
      #1805220 - 05/01/10 08:49 PM

Nice review, O-Slide.

That Shadow looks like a ton of fun!


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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: retodd]
      #1805227 - 05/01/10 09:13 PM

I'd imagine so...Sean is at N. Jetty most days anyway.
I emailed him to ask.

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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: Oceanslide]
      #1805258 - 05/02/10 12:44 AM

That Mattison video inspires me. More-so than the W.D. Dane vids where he's rippin' it to shreds... I dont know what else to say.



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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: Oceanslide]
      #1806660 - 05/04/10 02:18 PM

Thanks for the review . I am def getting something shaped similar. Can anyone compare this board to the firewire Dominator that is the other board ive been looking at? What size shadow would you recommend for me I'm 6'2" and 168 lbs. I'm an intermediate level surfer. I'm thinking the 5'11" but I dont know about the width 21"? and thickness 2 3/8"? Any suggestions thanks

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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: buckinbull]
      #1806701 - 05/04/10 03:09 PM

I owned a 6'2" Dominator, and the Shadow blows it away, IMO,
in all aspects. Faster, carves better, more range...
Sizing depends on what you want from the board. As a
general rule of thumb, you could size it exactly the same
as you would your favorite fish. I chose to stretch mine
out 2" in length and pulled in just a touch in width,
and feel that allowed it to still work well in crap surf,
and have more range in better waves. I can easily surf it
(and actually reach for it) in overhead, good waves.
Fuggingfantasticboard.

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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: Oceanslide]
      #1806748 - 05/04/10 04:08 PM

wow
that clip makes me want one
i wonder how it sizes for a lighter surfer intended to be ridden in waist high and up surf..
5'10" under 150 pounds


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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: sofradis]
      #1806824 - 05/04/10 05:46 PM

Ask Sean...he's not too tall or heavy and it's all I've
seen him on recently. mattisonsurf@gmail.com
Dudebro probably would be a good person to ask too.


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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: Oceanslide]
      #1808802 - 05/07/10 06:30 PM

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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: Oceanslide]
      #1809205 - 05/08/10 12:36 PM

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Re: Von Sol Shadow: Review and Pics [Re: reefer12]
      #1810114 - 05/10/10 10:50 AM

Saw this on C-list...someone should jump on it!
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/spo/1732576187.html

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