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Yeah, I was thinking the same. Crazy thing is, no way in hell the guy in the videos would have guessed that 2 yrs later he would brutalize some chick with the Club, rape her, then smother her in a boardbag and bury her corpse.
Guess life's just funny that way.
Would love to see a current mug shot of him, but CA doesn't have an offender database...
Eligible for parole this year, but highly doubtful. He has severe bi polar issues and will probably die in prison. What a waste of 2 lives directly, and a lot more, indirectly, with the families and friends.
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I remember a time we stole so much beer from a Thrifty Gas in Cardiff (Off Birmingham, actually) with a cast of characters that would pretty much fill out a Vision video for that time- or many years after... (Think about the guys that own everything now- they were pulling runners with us then... Swank, Tony, Steadham, Neider.....
eff this thread, whos the donkey that rated it 5 stars BS after only 2 posts.. i cant even sit thru watchin that kook murderer foka skate.. gator dont get no stars makes me wanna
Been trying to get in touch with Gator for the past 14 years...Did he make parole?
and BTW, to all you talking about murderer, this and that, you weren't there that night. you don't know what happened. but if you were running with that crew at the time you were probably involved in all kinds of stuff that coulda led you down the wrong path. mark is everything but unapolegetic.
Quote: Been trying to get in touch with Gator for the past 14 years...Did he make parole?
and BTW, to all you talking about murderer, this and that, you weren't there that night. you don't know what happened. but if you were running with that crew at the time you were probably involved in all kinds of stuff that coulda led you down the wrong path. mark is everything but unapolegetic.
I bet he is after being in a cage with Bubba the past 15 years. No excuse for his actions. NONE!
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Quote: Been trying to get in touch with Gator for the past 14 years...Did he make parole?
and BTW, to all you talking about murderer, this and that, you weren't there that night. you don't know what happened. but if you were running with that crew at the time you were probably involved in all kinds of stuff that coulda led you down the wrong path. mark is everything but unapolegetic.
ridiculous. he was "led" down the wrong path by his crew and he's apologetic. i'm guessin you're not surfnsunmom of the murdered girl.
look. fame, drugs, freaky consensual sex, is a dangerous combo that can lead to crazy stuff. then factor in a mental disorder.
and I'm not excusing his actions or blaming the Fallbrook crowd. i'm just saying people like to point fingers when there were plenty of people just as likely, if not more likely than mark to do something like he did and not even think twice afterwards.
living life in the fast lane, anyone is capable of murder really. high on drugs, skateboarding, and feeling invincible. if you grew up addicted to skating, surfing, and punk rock in southern california in the 80s, who hasn't been there? how many of you guys should gone to jail for something?
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living life in the fast lane, anyone is capable of murder really. high on drugs, skateboarding, and feeling invincible. if you grew up addicted to skating, surfing, and punk rock in southern california in the 80s, who hasn't been there? how many of you guys should gone to jail for something?
oh cmon. You described a large portion of my youth. Oddly I never even thought of committing Murder. Stupid crimes when your young do not equate to murder. MArk is a disturbed individual and that is why he is where he is. Not judging just stating facts.
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It's one thing to get caught up in something that gets out of control and goes really bad. It's altogether another thing to rape and murder an innocent girl. You're a fvcking idiot to even try the moral equivalence game in this case. Good grief, we as a people are fvcking doomed because we seem to be producing more and more pinheads like surfnsunmom.
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I grew up with acid, mushrooms, some of the most potent pakalolo around at one time, reds, blacks and yellow jackets. Drank like a fish as well....and sometimes till do....
AND, at 64 years of age...
STILL have respect for my fellow human being unless given a reason not to...
STILL, say please and thank you at the dinner table
Still give waves, because there'll be another one coming up over the horizon for me.
His behaviour, could have also been controlled by meds IF, he was taking them ...Most, choose not to somewhere down the line "because they're feeling fine".
Everyone, has a choise they can make in their Personal decisions....throughout their life time...
just saying.......
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Quote: look. fame, drugs, freaky consensual sex, is a dangerous combo that can lead to crazy stuff. then factor in a mental disorder.
and I'm not excusing his actions or blaming the Fallbrook crowd. i'm just saying people like to point fingers when there were plenty of people just as likely, if not more likely than mark to do something like he did and not even think twice afterwards.
living life in the fast lane, anyone is capable of murder really. high on drugs, skateboarding, and feeling invincible. if you grew up addicted to skating, surfing, and punk rock in southern california in the 80s, who hasn't been there? how many of you guys should gone to jail for something?
Quote: You described a large portion of my youth. Oddly I never even thought of committing Murder.
yeah, gotta agree right here! Can't blame crap on the crowd you run with, drugs, booze etc. I'd bet most of us lived that similar style of life...I know I did. You make choices, and you live with with them, it's that simple.
According to Castaneda, this was what Anthony told police:
Bergsten called him to have lunch, not knowing that a week before he had sought to kill McClain. A few days later, he picked her up at her Pacific Beach apartment and, after a meal in La Jolla, drove Bergsten to his Carlsbad condo.
After watching videos and drinking four glasses of wine, he began to feel the effects of the alcohol and decided to drive Bergsten home. He walked out to the car to see if his driver's license was there but instead returned with the heavy steering wheel lock.
He struck Bergsten over the head with the device, then placed the handcuffs on her body, took her upstairs and applied the shackles after cutting off her clothes with scissors.
He then raped her for two to three hours and placed her in a surfboard bag after she began to scream. When Bergsten cried out that she couldn't breathe, he strangled her, then loaded the body into the trunk of his car and drove to the desert.
After burying Bergsten, he drove to Phoenix--at times throwing evidence out the window--leaving the shovel used in the burial in a downtown trash bin there.
Anthony said he then drove back to San Diego, where he attempted to eliminate evidence of the crime, Castaneda said in concluding Anthony's purported confession.
At one point, Jimenez objected to the introduction of details of Anthony's purported confession, saying the prosecution must first deliver evidence that a crime has been committed. The fact that Bergsten's unclothed body was found in the desert does not suggest she was murdered, he argued.
Judge Burley called a 10-minute recess to research the claim, then overruled the objection.
Jimenez then suggested to Castaneda that he did not properly advise Anthony of his rights before listening to the confession, which was allegedly given after Anthony showed up at San Diego police headquarters the early morning of May 8.
Castaneda responded that, although Anthony was not under arrest at the time of his statements, he had read and signed a document advising him of his rights to an attorney before discussing the case with investigators.
Anthony's trial is scheduled to begin July 1 in Vista Superior Court.
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Actually, Gator does seem pretty regretful. A few years after the murder Thrasher published a thing Gator wrote basically taking full responsibility for what he did, warning kids not to go off down the same path and lifestyle he got into. He said, believe it or not, that it all started with cutting school early on.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing him paroled, skating, and doing the Hosoi thing. Even if just for the whole side show aspect of things. Don't tell me someone in the industry wouldn't have the balls to pick him up.
Gator in better days:
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If there were even a shred of justice in our society, we would start by hitting him over the head with a steering wheel lock, shackling him, having a 300 pound man repeatedly rape him for three hours, then suffocating him in a surfboard bag and buring his corpse in the desert.
The fact that some people think he should be cut any slack for any reason -- much less because he was a popular skater, is conclusive evidence that our society is made up of mental retards.
As someone above posted, I hope he gets paroled and moves in with your teenage daughters.
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Quote: THOSE WHO VISIT GATOR in prison are struck at first by how truly repentant he seems, sitting in his cell In a loose-fitting navy-blue jumpsuit with SD JAIL stamped on the back, his once wild long hair now shorn and carefully combed, as he talks about his fall from grace.
"I had been exposed to pornography since I was a little boy, three years old," he says. "In what form? In the form of sex, actual sex with people. I'm not going to say who, but with people in my childhood. First let me say that it wasn't only incest. I don't want to mention family members, of course, because I want to protect them. But let me put more emphasis on the fact that it was babysitters and older neighborhood kids."
Has it occurred to him that if he was the victim of sexual crime as a child, he might have a propensity to carry out such crimes as an adult? "If you believe that it was a revenge killing and that it was prompted by Brandi, I would say yes," he replies, and suddenly you're listening to a dramatically different Gator than the one at whose sentencing a Catholic priest testified, "Never before have I encountered a person so clearly open about his responsibility." You're listening to a man skating away from the idea that the murder was really his fault.
"I did lay upon her with a steering lock at one point, but that was part of the S&M," he says. "The fact is that it wasn't rape. It was more like an involuntary manslaughter. If it weren't for my submission to her wiles and the temptation of having such sex with her..."
Gator takes a deep breath, sighs, then continues. "I don't want to defame Jessica at all. I'm very, very sorry about what happened to her. I just want to make it known that I was led into a sexual situation that I didn't want to have anything to do with.
"I wouldn't have submitted if I didn't have some weakness, some background desire. You can go down the street to Coronet bookstore in Oceanside and buy a vast array of S&M bondage magazines, pictorials, descriptive pictorials, paperbacks that are step by step about how to lynch somebody sexually. It's pretty sick. I got a lot of ideas.
"That night, I didn't realize what kind of a purring feline she was. It's really hard for me to say these things about Jessica; we lost her and I don't feel good about that. I just want to make it known that I was led into a sexual situation that I didn't want to have anything to do with. I was scared I'd be discovered with this wayward woman.
"There were a lot of kids in my neighborhood, my prot6g6s in skateboarding who would have Bible studies with me. I was being an example to these impressionable kids. For them to see me with this woman and all that had been going on - the wine bottles, the cigarettes upstairs - it would have been devastating. In my attempt to quiet her, in her intoxicated and belligerent state, I had put my hand over her mouth to quiet her for a second so I could hear the voices and the footsteps coming up my walkway. She must have suffocated or had a seizure or a stroke or something. The next thing I knew, I look down and she's not breathing and not moving."
I don't know what does happen inside his head but the guy doesn't sound like one that should be free. All and all i wish him to change into a better person who can live free.
Quote: living life in the fast lane, anyone is capable of murder really. high on drugs, skateboarding, and feeling invincible. if you grew up addicted to skating, surfing, and punk rock in southern california in the 80s, who hasn't been there? how many of you guys should gone to jail for something?
WTF post of 2010 for sure...
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