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It happened again (pitbull related)
      #2038058 - 04/25/11 10:35 PM

Mon Apr 25, 9:31 pm ET

SANTA FE, New Mexico (Reuters) – A woman has been mauled to death by a pack of four pit bulls in the town of Truth or Consequences, New Mexico, authorities said on Monday.

Margaret Salcedo, 48, was walking alone when the dogs, which had escaped from a fenced yard at a private home, attacked her at an intersection on Sunday afternoon, Truth or Consequences Police Chief Patrick Gallagher said.

A passerby in a car opened his door to intervene, but he stayed in the vehicle when a dog charged him, police said.

"The officer arrived on the scene in less than three minutes, but it must have felt like an eternity to the poor woman being attacked," Gallagher told Reuters.

One of the dogs charged the officer, who shot and injured the animal, police said. All four dogs ran off, and the officer administered first aid to the wounded woman.

Salcedo was bitten on all her extremities and lost a lot of blood, Gallagher said. She was taken to a hospital, where she died within hours, he said.

The dogs were later located, and the animal that had been shot was dead from its injuries.

The other three dogs were taken to an animal shelter, but authorities said they will not make a determination on whether to destroy them until the conclusion of their investigation.

The dogs belonged to a couple named John and Maria Hardiman, who were not present during the attack, police said.

New Mexico State Police officials were conferring with the local District Attorney's Office to determine if criminal charges are warranted.

Truth or Consequences is about 150 miles south of Albuquerque, and the town named after a television game show in 1950 is popular for its hot springs.

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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: laidback]
      #2038070 - 04/25/11 10:40 PM

Kill em all!



Clayster will be stocked!!!

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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: laidback]
      #2038071 - 04/25/11 10:40 PM

What a stupid name for a town.

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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: Eunice]
      #2038074 - 04/25/11 10:43 PM

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What a stupid name for a town.




The Price Is Right, New Mexico, was already taken.


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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: ringer]
      #2038077 - 04/25/11 10:47 PM

Why do you hate Pioneertown, CA so much?

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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: JGROSS]
      #2038103 - 04/25/11 11:06 PM



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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: laidback]
      #2038127 - 04/25/11 11:25 PM

"to determine if criminal charges are warranted"

How could there not be?

"if" is a funny word.

if

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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: Big_Ups]
      #2038159 - 04/26/11 12:18 AM

...Technically not a repost but definitely beating a dead horse. The pitbull topic has been throughly explored plenty of times here already. They are some of the best dogs on the planet when raised properly and they are some of the worst when raised/neglected by dipsh*ts.

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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: ringer]
      #2038173 - 04/26/11 12:59 AM

Quote:

Quote:

What a stupid name for a town.




The Price Is Right, New Mexico, was already taken.




I wonder what Wheel of Fortune PD has to say about this incident?

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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: ringer]
      #2038174 - 04/26/11 01:02 AM

Quote:

Quote:

What a stupid name for a town.




The Price Is Right, New Mexico, was already taken.




Intercourse, PA is a far better name.

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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: frvcvs]
      #2038198 - 04/26/11 04:36 AM

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Kill em all!

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/euDqKM36GoM?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Clayster will be stocked!!!




You think people are stocked when some innocent bystander loses their life because idiots own pitbulls?


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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: sizzld1]
      #2038260 - 04/26/11 07:38 AM

Quote:

...Technically not a repost but definitely beating a dead horse. The pitbull topic has been throughly explored plenty of times here already. They are some of the best dogs on the planet when raised properly and they are some of the worst when raised/neglected by dipsh*ts.






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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: Eunice]
      #2038272 - 04/26/11 07:48 AM

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What a stupid name for a town.




That's the TRUTH about the CONSEQUENCES of living there.


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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: Kento]
      #2038281 - 04/26/11 07:54 AM

Quote:

Quote:

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What a stupid name for a town.




The Price Is Right, New Mexico, was already taken.




Intercourse, PA is a far better name.




Just make sure you don't lose your way and end up wit... I mean "in" Blue Ball, just up the road a little.

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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: Badfish]
      #2038282 - 04/26/11 07:55 AM



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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: sizzld1]
      #2038292 - 04/26/11 08:07 AM

Quote:

...Technically not a repost but definitely beating a dead horse. The pitbull topic has been throughly explored plenty of times here already. They are some of the best dogs on the planet when raised properly and they are some of the worst when raised/neglected by dipsh*ts.





What other breeds have been known to do this when "raised/neglected"?



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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: OCorNSD4me]
      #2038297 - 04/26/11 08:09 AM

Quote:

Quote:

...Technically not a repost but definitely beating a dead horse. The pitbull topic has been throughly explored plenty of times here already. They are some of the best dogs on the planet when raised properly and they are some of the worst when raised/neglected by dipsh*ts.





What other breeds have been known to do this when "raised/neglected"?



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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: GWS]
      #2038308 - 04/26/11 08:21 AM

But if you want to know where death is really stalking you on a daily basis?



Don't go in the bathroom.

Piss over in Fullers yard to be safe.



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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: OCorNSD4me]
      #2038311 - 04/26/11 08:27 AM

Quote:

Quote:

...Technically not a repost but definitely beating a dead horse. The pitbull topic has been throughly explored plenty of times here already. They are some of the best dogs on the planet when raised properly and they are some of the worst when raised/neglected by dipsh*ts.





What other breeds have been known to do this when "raised/neglected"?



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PRetty much all breeds.

Back in the 80s, it was Chows and German Shepherds.

In the 90s, Dobermans and Rottweilers.

poop, even Akitas and Bullmastiffs got a bad rap.

Lately it's Pit Bulls (and anything that even resembles them).


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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: Big_Ups]
      #2038313 - 04/26/11 08:28 AM

Quote:

"to determine if criminal charges are warranted"

How could there not be?

"if" is a funny word.

if



The dogs got out. How is that the owners' fault? Unless the dogs were constantly getting out and going on the prowl and the owners did nothing then this is an unfortunate accident.

Any dog when they get in a pack mentality can be dangerous. Imagine a pack of 6 Bichons attacking you, they may not have the strength of pit bulls but 6 sets of teeth and claws would still suck

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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: ifallalot]
      #2038320 - 04/26/11 08:34 AM

response A:
do bichons' jaws lock?

response b:
how many bichons could you take in a fight?


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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: GWS]
      #2038328 - 04/26/11 08:40 AM

Quote:

But if you want to know where death is really stalking you on a daily basis?



Don't go in the bathroom.

Piss over in Fullers yard to be safe.






Yeah, you gotta watch out for those bathtubs.



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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: ifallalot]
      #2038336 - 04/26/11 08:48 AM

Quote:

Quote:

"to determine if criminal charges are warranted"

How could there not be?

"if" is a funny word.

if



The dogs got out. How is that the owners' fault? Unless the dogs were constantly getting out and going on the prowl and the owners did nothing then this is an unfortunate accident.

Any dog when they get in a pack mentality can be dangerous. Imagine a pack of 6 Bichons attacking you, they may not have the strength of pit bulls but 6 sets of teeth and claws would still suck




No idea how they do things in Truth or Consequences, NM - but here in California it would be the owner's fault 100%. You have a responsibility to keep your dogs contained. So, unless there is evidence showing that someone cut the dogs loose - then by all means it's negligence on the owner. Accident, maybe. Unfortunate, for sure. But that just because it's an accident doesn't absolve them of any liability. It could be easily argued that any reasonable person would see that their dogs have the potential to be dangerous and certain steps should have been taken to contain them. Accidentally leaving the kennel open = negligence. Some gangbangers breaking into their home trying to steal the dogs and the dogs getting away = Owner's are ok.

Who knows? I certainly don't. I kind of stopped reading when it said "Truth or Consequences, NM" (it IS a stupid ***** name for a town) and got the rest of the info from this thread.

My neighbor when I was growing up bred Rottweilers and Dobermans as guard dogs and sold them to various businesses, etc. These things were hulking monsters that went ballistic whenever he went back to feed them. One time, my little sister was in the backyard playing and the guy calls my dad and says that the dog was loose and it would probably try and get in our back yard (our dogs loved chasing back and forth with their dogs behind through the fences). My mom flips out and runs in the backyard and my sister (5 years old? Something like that) is putting flowers in the Rottweiler's ear. She did it all the time with our dogs, and this man killing beast somehow managed to get out (turned out that the dog was trying to dig under the fence in the back and couldn't get under it - but the dirt that it kicked up created a big enough pile that allowed it to jump up just high enough that it could climb its way over the back fence). Anyway, the guy came over, grabbed the dog, put it back in the kennel and apologized to my parents. He told us that we were lucky because that particular one was still young and wasn't "trained." (which was one of the reasons it was trying to get out in the first place) He had contractors out there putting up new fencing the next day.

That was back in the 80s when no one knew what a lawsuit was.


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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: Random Guy]
      #2038337 - 04/26/11 08:49 AM

Quote:

response A:
do bichons' jaws lock?

response b:
how many bichons could you take in a fight?




1) no.

2) 0. Those things are mean as fark.


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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: Kento]
      #2038342 - 04/26/11 08:53 AM

You drive by and the woman is being attacked. You get out and the dog comes after you.

Do you get back in the care, close the door and watch?

If I did that and the woman died it would eat me for life.

But you never know until the choice has to be made.

I have this hero fantasy so I would proably do it for the ego boost.

I want the news girl to say, "People are calling you a hero."

And then I will say,"Yeah, the pretty much sums it up. How about a kiss for the hero?" Then I would try to kiss the cute news girl. If I'm a hero isn't that my right to harras cute news girls?


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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: Random Guy]
      #2038346 - 04/26/11 08:59 AM

Quote:

response A:
do bichons' jaws lock?

response b:
how many bichons could you take in a fight?



4 to 6 would be pretty hard to fight off. Also, didn't GWS or frvcvs say that the pitbull lock is a myth and that all dogs jaws can lock?

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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: Autoprax]
      #2038349 - 04/26/11 09:00 AM

Quote:

You drive by and the woman is being attacked. You get out and the dog comes after you.

Do you get back in the care, close the door and watch?

If I did that and the woman died it would eat me for life.

But you never know until the choice has to be made.

I have this hero fantasy so I would proably do it for the ego boost.

I want the news girl to say, "People are calling you a hero."

And then I will say,"Yeah, the pretty much sums it up. How about a kiss for the hero?" Then I would try to kiss the cute news girl. If I'm a hero isn't that my right to harras cute news girls?




One in the trunk at all times, just in case:



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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: Autoprax]
      #2038351 - 04/26/11 09:01 AM

Hunt some pitbulls.



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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: Norm']
      #2038355 - 04/26/11 09:03 AM

I love how Norm and I had pretty much the same line of thought, at the same time

Although his choice of weapon is probably more effective, I give mine style points, especially if the cute news chick is watching


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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: subway]
      #2038356 - 04/26/11 09:06 AM

I think you'd definitely look more badass. Plus you'd be drenched in blood. Chicks dig that.

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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: SurfZombie]
      #2038357 - 04/26/11 09:08 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

"to determine if criminal charges are warranted"

How could there not be?

"if" is a funny word.

if



The dogs got out. How is that the owners' fault? Unless the dogs were constantly getting out and going on the prowl and the owners did nothing then this is an unfortunate accident.

Any dog when they get in a pack mentality can be dangerous. Imagine a pack of 6 Bichons attacking you, they may not have the strength of pit bulls but 6 sets of teeth and claws would still suck




No idea how they do things in Truth or Consequences, NM - but here in California it would be the owner's fault 100%. You have a responsibility to keep your dogs contained. So, unless there is evidence showing that someone cut the dogs loose - then by all means it's negligence on the owner. Accident, maybe. Unfortunate, for sure. But that just because it's an accident doesn't absolve them of any liability. It could be easily argued that any reasonable person would see that their dogs have the potential to be dangerous and certain steps should have been taken to contain them. Accidentally leaving the kennel open = negligence. Some gangbangers breaking into their home trying to steal the dogs and the dogs getting away = Owner's are ok.

Who knows? I certainly don't. I kind of stopped reading when it said "Truth or Consequences, NM" (it IS a stupid ***** name for a town) and got the rest of the info from this thread.

My neighbor when I was growing up bred Rottweilers and Dobermans as guard dogs and sold them to various businesses, etc. These things were hulking monsters that went ballistic whenever he went back to feed them. One time, my little sister was in the backyard playing and the guy calls my dad and says that the dog was loose and it would probably try and get in our back yard (our dogs loved chasing back and forth with their dogs behind through the fences). My mom flips out and runs in the backyard and my sister (5 years old? Something like that) is putting flowers in the Rottweiler's ear. She did it all the time with our dogs, and this man killing beast somehow managed to get out (turned out that the dog was trying to dig under the fence in the back and couldn't get under it - but the dirt that it kicked up created a big enough pile that allowed it to jump up just high enough that it could climb its way over the back fence). Anyway, the guy came over, grabbed the dog, put it back in the kennel and apologized to my parents. He told us that we were lucky because that particular one was still young and wasn't "trained." (which was one of the reasons it was trying to get out in the first place) He had contractors out there putting up new fencing the next day.

That was back in the 80s when no one knew what a lawsuit was.




whoa, that story had a much happier ending than i was expecting - it was suspenseful, even riveting

i can hardly wait for more scary stories from your childhood


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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: Norm']
      #2038358 - 04/26/11 09:08 AM

and you just can't beat that satisfying wet crunch of mace-on-skull

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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: Random Guy]
      #2038364 - 04/26/11 09:10 AM

Quote:

response A:
do bichons' jaws lock?




no, & neither to pits'. stupid f--king myth that just won't go away due to constant misinformation & the sensationalization of attacks like this one.

Quote:

response b:
how many bichons could you take in a fight?




0, b/c, as previously mentioned, they can be mean as hell!

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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: SurfZombie]
      #2038365 - 04/26/11 09:11 AM

Quote:

My mom flips out and runs in the backyard and my sister (5 years old? Something like that) is putting flowers in the Rottweiler's ear. She did it all the time with our dogs




She live a charmed life?

My kid used to grab our Rott's upper lip and try to pull it over her eyes.... Dog never even growled or walked away, just took the abuse with a look that said "I'm so over this poop!" She was a great dog.

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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: ifallalot]
      #2038366 - 04/26/11 09:11 AM

Quote:

Quote:

response A:
do bichons' jaws lock?

response b:
how many bichons could you take in a fight?



4 to 6 would be pretty hard to fight off. Also, didn't GWS or frvcvs say that the pitbull lock is a myth and that all dogs jaws can lock?




oh, so do you get gws and frvcvs mixed up alot?

if i'm you, i'm keeping an eye on gws' knee next time i see him - wait, or was frvcvs the knee of death character?


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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: Random Guy]
      #2038372 - 04/26/11 09:14 AM

Quote:


oh, so do you get gws and frvcvs mixed up alot?

if i'm you, i'm keeping an eye on gws' knee next time i see him - wait, or was frvcvs the knee of death character?




GWS knee of death hits your chin.... Frvcvs, well that one gets you in the knee!

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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: Random Guy]
      #2038412 - 04/26/11 09:39 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

response A:
do bichons' jaws lock?

response b:
how many bichons could you take in a fight?



4 to 6 would be pretty hard to fight off. Also, didn't GWS or frvcvs say that the pitbull lock is a myth and that all dogs jaws can lock?




oh, so do you get gws and frvcvs mixed up alot?

if i'm you, i'm keeping an eye on gws' knee next time i see him - wait, or was frvcvs the knee of death character?



Yeah, I knew as soon as I put those two in the same sentence I was in for it....

Bichon attack!


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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: ifallalot]
      #2038420 - 04/26/11 09:44 AM

I feel persecuted. I own a Maltese and people often confuse him with a Bichon and cower in fear.

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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: Norm']
      #2038424 - 04/26/11 09:46 AM

My dog is some kind of mix between medium poodle (not the big one, not the toy, I don't know the name), bichon and maltese. He is 30 lbs and people give me dirty looks for having such a dangerous beast. Almost like if I was walking a Cane Corso or something

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Re: It happened again (pitbull related) [Re: ifallalot]
      #2038428 - 04/26/11 09:50 AM

Grrrrrr!



Fecal is going to go after me and my small penis now that I've posted my tough guy dog.

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