winwin
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Anyone tried one or felt one up? Any thoughts/inputs would be appreciated.
Winwin  
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seacow
Legend (inyourownmind)
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Loc: NY
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would love to here more about this board too
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Retropete
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I've had a good hard look at them in one of my local surf shops.
A fish planshape with a round tail and thruster plugs.
Carry a lot of foam.
Have a look at Craig Anderson footage on the Hayden website.
There's shots of him riding solid waves in Indo on a 5'4" or 5'6" but he's not ripping big top turns on it.
For most surfers the Shred sled looks to be a much more versatile retro style board.
Carries a lot less foam but has a very nice foil.
A big, old guy like me would be looking at a 6' Hypto Kyrpto (about 38 litres) and then to get the same litreage in a Shred sled would have to go to 6'6" in stock dimensions.
Plenty of video of the shred sled being surfed progressively on the Hayden site.
The used Fibreflexs I've seen have had pretty heavily heel dented decks which put me off them.
No big deal for most until it comes time to trade it in or sell it on and the re-sale is low but you've paid a premium price when new.
The strength may have improved lately though.
Email Hayden and ask him.
I'm now riding a Diverse Dynocore eps which has the lightness but also good strength and most importantly loses years off my surfing performance wise.
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donniedarko
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They do get quite a bit of heel denting... that shape looks fun kind of an eccentric version of a CI Biscuit imo. The dynacore lam looks cool
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Zato70
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I rode my 5'5 this morning for the first time. Not an easy board to ride in solid 4 to 6 f. waves. I felt undergunned 90% of the waves on very fast takeoffs and couldn't find projection easily, which makes me realize (AGAIN!!) that all the videos of pros riding these boards in impossible situations are blinding average guys like us. I prefer pretty much a DD/BirdEyes/DTS for small/medium pointbreaks. Probably it has its niche, but itīs not good waves for me. Enjoy Craig... 
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winwin
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thanks for all the input. very surprise that fiberflex dents like a mofo...i thought the tech will be something along the lines of coil, firewire, etc...
and it not being an easy board to ride is a negative....probably will shy away from one now...
win win 
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AquaClear
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I have ridden the Hypto Krypto and find it very easy to ride. This is a great board for guys who are looking for alternatives to the standard high performance thruster. Why would denting turn you away from getting a board. SurfTechs, Firwires as well as volan glassed long boards all cave in. I dent the $#@% out of ever thing. Surfing to me is about challenging myself, some boards are harder to surf and others. There is joy form learning to surf a board well. I'm sure you would enjoy a Hayden and will find it super user friendly.
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winwin
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i have no issues with boards denting...never owned surftechs, had a firewire (did not like). but for a board that has a 750-800 price tag (fiberflex) i want something that has a good resale value. used boards nowadays, no matter how much they initially cost, generally will sell for 350-450max...you get the idea right?
Coils for me is the best tech/value for the $...shipped to your door.
that being said, I may still want to try a Hypto if one comes up used in my size though...
Edited by winwin (09/26/11 12:27 PM)
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singlFIN
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There was a 5'8 San Diego CL for $500, I dont know if it's still available.
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/spo/2598403336.html
The coils run about $6-700 right?
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winwin
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thanks, that looks pretty nice.
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Retropete
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Loc: Sunny Coast Qld Australia
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I have ridden the Hypto Krypto and find it very easy to ride. This is a great board for guys who are looking for alternatives to the standard high performance thruster. Why would denting turn you away from getting a board. SurfTechs, Firwires as well as volan glassed long boards all cave in. I dent the $#@% out of ever thing. Surfing to me is about challenging myself, some boards are harder to surf and others. There is joy form learning to surf a board well. I'm sure you would enjoy a Hayden and will find it super user friendly.
I'm really hard on decks of boards BUT
there are shapers out there who are making light weight, strong surfboards with excellent flex characteristics.
Sold my Dick Van Straalen carbon fibre/eps board back in April. Rode it for exactly 2 years. Paid $1300 for it. Sold it for $1100. Ordered a new one (shorter) which cost $1200.
Cost of owning board for years 2 - not too shabby!
The deck of the board still looked new.
Now riding a Diverse Dynocore that rides better than any eps board I've ever surfed and is super strong to boot.
If I was in the US I'd buy a Coil.
Putting a parabolic stringer of carbon tape doesn't do anything for strengthening the deck...
http://www.haydenshapes.com/productdetailmssql.aspx?prodid=HS6836&titleid=11&db=remotemssql
However I did say I believe they may be making them stronger now.
Could have changed foams or glassing.
There's some poly blanks over here that are really strong nowadays as well.
My 7'er has a super hard blank that has stood up well to my Gorilla feet.
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AquaClear
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I have had allot of success with HydroFlex. If you charge the board to a high PSI you get no dents. I enjoy the boards with little or know air. They feel damp but carve and fit like now other. Do you like boards that are flat under your feet?
Sorry for getting off subject.
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Retropete
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I'm not sure what you're asking about flat decks?
Do you mean a deck with no roll or with a smooth surface ie no denting.
The Dick Van Straalens I have owned have been concave decks.
My current Dynocore has a shaped in heel well for the front foot as they don't pressure dent easily like a lightly glassed poly board.
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AquaClear
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I too have concave decked board but don't like the heel tow action they provide.They are very sensitive and slow to react due to the continuous pressure the rail receives. Your board looks great. I have been a fan of Diverse for some time. I would love to see him make a trip to the west coast and cut some blanks.
Are you having delamination problems with this technology?
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Retropete
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Not in the slightest.
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kool-aid
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I'm not sure what you're asking about flat decks?
Do you mean a deck with no roll or with a smooth surface ie no denting.
The Dick Van Straalens I have owned have been concave decks.
My current Dynocore has a shaped in heel well for the front foot as they don't pressure dent easily like a lightly glassed poly board.
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That's a rad board. Almost thought it was a coil?? speaking of which, do they really only run 6 - 7 hundred.
Was also eyeing the hypto crypto including that one in SD. But thinking that a custom mini driver might be a safer bet??
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Havoc
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I will not be purchasing this design
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winwin
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Why boss?
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retodd
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talked with a guy out on one at retodd reef , he was not having fun on his . his words were to loose and to flat . he was about your size and the board looked to be sized correct around 5-5 / 5-4 . it had a very full foil .
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winwin
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Good to know
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Havoc
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too loose and too flat
there are many women like that who will waste your time
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Havoc
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talked with a guy out on one at retodd reef , he was not having fun on his . his words were to loose and to flat . he was about your size and the board looked to be sized correct around 5-5 / 5-4 . it had a very full foil .
I had my apprehensions about that design due to the lack of rail line and curvy outline which also furthers decreases the rail line. in addition running higher volume to compensate. design just seemed very off for me. maybe works in small punchy lined up waves... but what doesnt
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Havoc
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But thinking that a custom mini driver might be a safer bet?
This! I want one!!
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Retropete
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That's why I was saying the Shred sled is a better planshape, foil, rocker for most.
Can be surfed a lot more progressively.
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Retropete
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Fortunately they go for $999 Aud
However they are worth every cent.
I quite happily sold off a four month old Dick Van Straalen eps/fullcarbon fibre board after demoing one and then ordering the custom.
Best epoxy board I've ever surfed.
Dave's been selling off his demo fleet to go towards funding a glassing facility to do longboards as well.
The boards are laminated in Innegra, carbon tape and basalt with a secret sauce of mixed resins.
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diverse
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just make sure there is no confusion..the Dynocores run out at $999aud... and sorry pete the words are not unfortunatly as we give 50% guaranteed trade in on them... a correct use of unfortunatly would be if someone "unfortunatly" buys a board without a guarantee...
the guy in the thread earlier when he said he would not buy one meant a hs kryptoflex thingy...
the broadbeans were built from a longboarders perspective so they have lots of run, there is a nice straighter section around the middle a correct rocker to boot..!
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Retropete
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Excuse my mis-pricing!
I'd totally forgotten about the guaranteed 50% trade-in.
That is standing behind your product.
How's the mini-chopper going?
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Havoc
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I will not be purchasing this design
yup, as diverse said I will not be buying the hypto krypto.
If i was in aus, a diverse dynacore would be at the top of my list. luckily here in the states we have mike daniel and coil.
hypto krypto seems like such a weird design but of course until I ride one I can't really make an opinion. but it has low low rocker, but lots of volume, very wide and a rounded pulled in tail ridden very short. seems like no rail line. pass.
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Retropete
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Just to clarify everyone else's clarifications.
I did comprehend that Havoc would not being buying a Hypto Kyrpto as well.
Wouldn't want ya'll ta thunk ma readin and writin tweren't up ta skratch. 
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Havoc
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I will not be purchasing this design
never say never yo!
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sublime74
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I will NEVER buy this
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Havoc
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I will NEVER buy this
sure buddy, u'll have 2 of every design in no time
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retodd
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I will NEVER buy this
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Retropete
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Visible panties line...tsk tsk, fashion faux paux (or however ya spell it).
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henny
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Saw a few FF Hypto Krypto's in the shop yesterday with a serious price cut $750 down to $530 . Kid around here kills it on his... Couple new Coils on the rack...400 bones !None in my size
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voodoobrew
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Saw a few FF Hypto Krypto's in the shop yesterday with a serious price cut $750 down to $530 . Kid around here kills it on his... Couple new Coils on the rack...400 bones !None in my size
What shop would that be?
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henny
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Saw a few FF Hypto Krypto's in the shop yesterday with a serious price cut $750 down to $530 . Kid around here kills it on his... Couple new Coils on the rack...400 bones !None in my size
What shop would that be?
Saw the Haydens in Ocean surf shop . Coils were in Mckevlin's (sp)?
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Chacotaco
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Saw a few FF Hypto Krypto's in the shop yesterday with a serious price cut $750 down to $530 . Kid around here kills it on his... Couple new Coils on the rack...400 bones !None in my size
What shop would that be?
Saw the Haydens in Ocean surf shop . Coils were in Mckevlin's (sp)?
McKevlin = Pop Out Cop? 
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seacow
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Those are good prices for the Haydens, were they GSI though? and $400 for a new coil?? Does this place ship, that sounds too good to be true.
Ive got a Hypto on order but really liking the looks of the Germ as well. Anyone ridden both? Would love to hear the comparison.
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henny
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Haydens were the Carbon railed dealios ... don't know where they were shaped/ made ..
Coils are new 6'0" Qualifiers ... double checked 450...
is the pic too big ?
Edited by henny (10/12/12 09:16 AM)
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