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DANNOWAR
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This is the reason i will continue to buy o'neill products
      #2185049 - 11/12/11 02:45 AM

this is the THIRD time i have sent this wetsuit in for repair at my own fault. took a fin to the back,tore through the entire back panel. reapired no questions asked. THE NEXT DAY, got finned again and they fixed three large rips no questions asked, no charge. Just got it back again for the third time, this time the crotch was leaking and i was more than willing to pay to get it fixed. not only did they replace the whole panel, the inspected and tuned up my suit, no questions asked, no charge.

Next year when i get a new suit, it will be another oneill pyschofreak. its the best suit iveever had the pleasure of dealing with, in and out of the water




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Re: This is the reason i will continue to buy o'neill products [Re: DANNOWAR]
      #2185051 - 11/12/11 02:54 AM



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Re: This is the reason i will continue to buy o'neill products [Re: DANNOWAR]
      #2185062 - 11/12/11 05:53 AM

Thats amazing cutomer service!

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Re: This is the reason i will continue to buy o'neill products [Re: DANNOWAR]
      #2185065 - 11/12/11 06:11 AM

Cool to post something positive. These companies constantly take a beating on here! Glad to know customer service exists.

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Re: This is the reason i will continue to buy o'neill products [Re: DANNOWAR]
      #2185099 - 11/12/11 08:09 AM

That makes me seriously consider giving them a look next fall, I'll have to see how my current suits manufacturers step up when the time comes.

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Re: This is the reason i will continue to buy o'neill products [Re: alaskasurfer]
      #2185101 - 11/12/11 08:13 AM

O'Neill friends/family sale today in Anaheim Gardenwalk. Add says suits are only 20% off though.

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Re: This is the reason i will continue to buy o'neill products [Re: DANNOWAR]
      #2185115 - 11/12/11 09:07 AM

TY. I think you've positively influenced my next buying decision.

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Re: This is the reason i will continue to buy o'neill products [Re: PRCalDude]
      #2185116 - 11/12/11 09:11 AM

I just sent back 2 pairs of Hyperfreak boardshorts that were a month old with stitching problems. Hopefully they will do the right thing.

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Re: This is the reason i will continue to buy o'neill products [Re: PRCalDude]
      #2185118 - 11/12/11 09:12 AM

Thanks for sharing this. I'm definitely giving their suits a serious look next time I'm in the market for one.



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Re: This is the reason i will continue to buy o'neill products [Re: DANNOWAR]
      #2185123 - 11/12/11 09:26 AM

Im happy you were treated well but
I'll never buy oneil again!
Their $hitty rubber was falling apart, you can see right through it
They told me $100 to repair their crap material
Suit was less than a year old and looked like an old lady knitted the thing buy hand.


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Re: This is the reason i will continue to buy o'neill products [Re: laidback]
      #2185158 - 11/12/11 11:27 AM

Quote:

Im happy you were treated well but
I'll never buy oneil again!
Their $hitty rubber was falling apart, you can see right through it
They told me $100 to repair their crap material
Suit was less than a year old and looked like an old lady knitted the thing buy hand.






what suit was it...


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Re: This is the reason i will continue to buy o'neill products [Re: DANNOWAR]
      #2185181 - 11/12/11 12:59 PM

A 3/2 heat.
I ended up cutting the arms and using it as a springsuit, so i guess i got my use out of it.
The area that fell apart was that slick material on the back

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Re: This is the reason i will continue to buy o'neill products [Re: laidback]
      #2185349 - 11/12/11 08:56 PM

This was the first year I've tried oneill goods. Bought booties and gloves a few months ago and they are both falling apart. I don't think they can be fixed, especially the gloves they are like delaminating and wearing through. Back to Xcel I guess.

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Re: This is the reason i will continue to buy o'neill products [Re: Aruka]
      #2185350 - 11/12/11 09:05 PM

In a day where most fullsuits seem to breakdown after a year in a half, the O'neill Mutant has been one of the most durable suits I have ever owned.

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Re: This is the reason i will continue to buy o'neill products [Re: jkb]
      #2185384 - 11/12/11 10:37 PM

Quote:

In a day where most fullsuits seem to breakdown after a year in a half, the O'neill Mutant has been one of the most durable suits I have ever owned.



+1 I am about two months away from two years owning a mutant

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Re: This is the reason i will continue to buy o'neill products [Re: rowjimmytour]
      #2185408 - 11/13/11 03:27 AM

+1
besides that fact that Oneill is probably the only brand that takes care of people like me (extra tall and extra thin) with their Medium Tall (MT) wetsuit size.

I also had a great experience with their customer service. I live outside the US (pretty far away). on a trip to CA I bought a pair of Timmy Reyes Board Shorts that I wasn't to pleased with. they stretched to the point of being unusable after only a few sessions. I contacted their support and was told to mail it to them. I mailed the shorts (at my expense) and they sent me back a brand new replacement pair.
Needless to say, I was very happy with their service.


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Re: This is the reason i will continue to buy o'neill products [Re: DANNOWAR]
      #2185411 - 11/13/11 03:45 AM

So , great customer service, but did you get the impression from O'neill that your case was rare or common from their position? I've generally had good luck with O'neill and am a loyal customer. But nowadays I'm trying to make the best decisions from a monetary standpoint and I keep hearing mixed reviews at best. Cheers

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Re: This is the reason i will continue to buy o'neill products [Re: DANNOWAR]
      #2185445 - 11/13/11 07:18 AM

Quote:

this is the THIRD time i have sent this wetsuit in for repair at my own fault. took a fin to the back,tore through the entire back panel. reapired no questions asked. THE NEXT DAY, got finned again and they fixed three large rips no questions asked, no charge. Just got it back again for the third time, this time the crotch was leaking and i was more than willing to pay to get it fixed. not only did they replace the whole panel, the inspected and tuned up my suit, no questions asked, no charge.

Next year when i get a new suit, it will be another oneill pyschofreak. its the best suit iveever had the pleasure of dealing with, in and out of the water







This is great news! To you and all that are interested in purchasing and using O'niell.

Respectfully, If you intend to keep using O'neill wetsuits...do yourself a favor. Stay away from the SS welds. Even if they replace or repair your suit a 100 times. Is it worth the frustration, time and money spent?

Their liquid welds dont last, and their SS welds are complete garbage. The PF suit in general is not worth the money IMHO. Im on my 3rd PF the latest and greatest 2011. Only had it 2 months and its already falling apart at numerous area's.

Im not here to bash O'neill. Im only relating my personal experience to try and help others out from unesscessary frustration. The gals over at the warranty dept. are very kind and bless their souls. Im sure they get alot of angry people complaining. Ive seen it.

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Re: This is the reason i will continue to buy o'neill products [Re: saltyNuts]
      #2185464 - 11/13/11 08:04 AM

Quote:

Quote:

This is great news! To you and all that are interested in purchasing and using O'niell.

Respectfully, If you intend to keep using O'neill wetsuits...do yourself a favor. Stay away from the SS welds. Even if they replace or repair your suit a 100 times. Is it worth the frustration, time and money spent?

Their liquid welds dont last, and their SS welds are complete garbage. The PF suit in general is not worth the money IMHO.




+1. I had problems with the fluid seams on the Psycho 2 I bought a couple years ago from the very first use. The first year it was out for repairs more than not haha. They'll happily keep fixing and fixing it but the suit is not durable. I paid full retail and it was probably the worst purchase I've ever made in 30 years of surfing.


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Re: This is the reason i will continue to buy o'neill products [Re: San Gabriel Valley local]
      #2185495 - 11/13/11 09:33 AM

When people buy top end wetsuits like the Psycho Freak, they expect to get the best technology, warmth, flexibility, and durability. But increased flexibility often comes at the cost of decreased durability.

That's why I like the Mutant. It's a compromise. It's not a stiff suit by any means, but I'm sure it's not the most flexible suit out in the water either. The seams are simple......stitching on the inside and fluid seam weld on the outside. Solid neck entry that's not too tough to get on and off (less stress on the suit). Best of all, it has lasted me 4 seasons (which is incredible when you consider I surf 5 times a week) and it's $200 cheaper than the high end suits right now.

I owned a Psycho 2 and it fell apart fast. Didn't like it.


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Re: This is the reason i will continue to buy o'neill products [Re: jkb]
      #2185520 - 11/13/11 10:03 AM

if u guys are really into customer service and warranty stuff, get all ur chit from patagonia. no sending back and hoping. just bring it into a retail store and they'll fix it or replace it. nuff said.

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Re: This is the reason i will continue to buy o'neill products [Re: Havoc]
      #2185599 - 11/13/11 11:55 AM

my experience with oniell: i had a 4/3 psycho 2 a few years ago. awesome, super warm, flexible, lasted almost a season before it started to leak bigtime. i wouldve been really bummed cuz they are so expensive but i got it for free

last season, i had a psycho 1. i wore it a LOT. didnt take awesome care of it but didnt neglect it either. after about 7 months it was done. neck velcro ate thru the shoulders, paper thin. knees got paper thin. elbows got paper thin. leaky. bummed. i wrote oniell a letter, and sent it in along with the suit, and they sent back a brand new suit. thats cool.

i was holding on to it, hoping to sell it and go with a different brand, but i broke down and have worn it for about 4 sessions now. its not the warmest, especially in the wind. the worst part is it totally compresses the family jewels and that gets really uncomfortable. so unfortunately im going to need to pay up for something else. im thinking quik cypher.

the moral of my story is that oniell customer service has treated me well, but their wetsuits, not as much.

ps, i also have their mutant booties and those arent good. water is sloshing around in them after about 10 minutes.

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Re: This is the reason i will continue to buy o'neill products [Re: Havoc]
      #2185810 - 11/13/11 08:17 PM

Quote:

if u guys are really into customer service and warranty stuff, get all ur chit from patagonia. no sending back and hoping. just bring it into a retail store and they'll fix it or replace it. nuff said.




I just took my Patagonia in today, and they're sending it to Ventura.

I also had a mutant that I liked for the first season, but then the back got so stretched out that it flushes all the time now. I have a psycho 2 that I got for $100, and I've been rotating it with my patagucci, so it's still almost new after 1 season.

Moral of the story: there is no perfect suit. I have to move to a warmer climate, where all I have to worry about is trunks.

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