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LoneWolf
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...Lost V2 Rocket?
      #2228800 - 01/19/12 05:40 PM

Mr. Biolos knows how to generate excitement about his products. Building suspense with this little teaser.



I guess it's the next version of the Rocket? Or maybe a tweaked version for low end waves? I know the rocket generally prefers better waves so that's my guess.

I've been drooling over the blinged out Bottom Feeders HERE myself.


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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: LoneWolf]
      #2228866 - 01/19/12 07:33 PM

Looks like a normal rocket to me with a crazy tail

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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: LoneWolf]
      #2228869 - 01/19/12 07:38 PM

concave deck ?



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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: LoneWolf]
      #2228870 - 01/19/12 07:39 PM

Effectively has lower tail rocker, mellower concave... a little more neutral. I believe the final design will have the wing and tips of diamond moved back a bit compared to board in pic.

OG rockets were great, but the V2 is way more appealing to me personally.


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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: LoneWolf]
      #2228884 - 01/19/12 07:58 PM



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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: pickles]
      #2233712 - 01/27/12 10:25 AM

order sent. Search over and back to work.

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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: LoneWolf]
      #2233877 - 01/27/12 01:20 PM

The short story is this....

The V2 has a bit less tail rocker, with less concave through he fins which creates a faster rail line under foot. I actually deepend the concave out of the tail as well. The soft wing helps retain of the quick redirection off the top n bottom..and lend more control in the bowl. To tell the truth, I have moved the points of the diamond up a bit and made the angle closer to the Stealth tail, but havnt finalized this 100%.

The nose rocker is bent up more in the last 12" (to balance the lower TR and keep from poking) and the concave is brought further forward (to compensate for more NR and also further elongating the rail line for more front foot drive) and help with even faster out the gate take rides.
The tail rail is sculpted in a more pronounced way, adding a touch of double concave under the rear foot , as well as a low , square and boxy tail rail. I also made the nose a touch wider in the 12-18' mark.

Overall a easier board to ride for an average surfer in sub par waves. it has more down the line drive and a bit less skateboard kick tail feel.
The Rocket was one of the most popular boards around the world in the last 5 years...one of the most well known and knocked off surfboard models in recent memory. It obviously has merit and worked well for thousands of surfers, but there is always room for imporvment. I used the feedback from the average joe to update and refine what was not broken.
The original Rocket will always be available form us as well. This doesn't replace the Rocket, it compliments it.

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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: kdropin]
      #2233905 - 01/27/12 01:51 PM

sounds like a board i would like. little less tail rocker for the average joe.

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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: sofradis]
      #2233967 - 01/27/12 03:12 PM

Like the sound of what he's done with the rocker and concave. I think the tail still needs some work. It looks pretty funky and awkward. I found the original Rocket didn't really work for me unless the surf was bigger or had a lot of push and the nose rocker was so low it seemed a little sticky till you got going and could stomp on the tail.

The Rock Up, with more nose rocker and less tail rocker actually worked better for me in both bigger and smaller waves.


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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: nightfly]
      #2267187 - 03/16/12 06:53 AM



http://mayhembiolos.posterous.com/the-v2-has-launched


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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: goingright]
      #2267212 - 03/16/12 07:45 AM

Ive seen one. I agree with Heavyfooted, the OG rocket was good but in waves with a hook.

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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: LoneWolf]
      #2299589 - 05/01/12 10:18 PM

just saw one of these in person today and it looked money. one I saw was a 5'10x20x2.44. I think a 5'9 would work well for me. looks much more user friendly than the standard rocket I'd assume. anybody ridden one yet?

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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: Havoc]
      #2299602 - 05/01/12 10:48 PM



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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: Havoc]
      #2299691 - 05/02/12 07:17 AM

Felt up a couple recently too. Look/feel killer!

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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: Oceanslide]
      #2322566 - 06/06/12 08:38 PM

I like!

Luvsurf TV : LOST『V2-ROCKET』Chirs Ward クリス・ワード from Luvsurf TV on Vimeo.



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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: Havoc]
      #2322794 - 06/07/12 07:51 AM

Matt talks a lot about this design on his posterous blog. He seems really stoked on it and recommends it often to guys asking design questions. The few I have seen have that look of a board that will work.

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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: Havoc]
      #2322836 - 06/07/12 08:24 AM

Quote:

I like!

<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/43382249" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/43382249">Luvsurf TV : LOST&#12302;V2-ROCKET&#12303;Chirs Ward &#12463;&#12522;&#12473;&#12539;&#12527;&#12540;&#12489;</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/luvsurf">Luvsurf TV</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>




Wow! Wardo's surfing in this segment is so smooth and controlled. Great clip!


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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: Dawn_patrol]
      #2322965 - 06/07/12 10:00 AM

Quote:

Matt talks a lot about this design on his posterous blog. He seems really stoked on it and recommends it often to guys asking design questions. The few I have seen have that look of a board that will work.




yup, the design seems really balanced. board looks fast and loose. mayhems descriptions are always spot on. there's some nuggets of info on his blog in the comments posts.

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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: Havoc]
      #2336426 - 06/28/12 07:27 PM

Picked up my custom V2 today. 20 min later I was in the water. Ohhhhhh shiittttt. Dont feel like writing a long description but the board works exactly like its name: THE ROCKET...

So freakin stoked, so far 3 for 3 lost boards and all are pure magic. RNF, driver and rocket

even the board i picked up today out of pure luck, the logo color lost put matched my boardshorts, leash and pad I randomly/bought.

I while waiiting for a set and noticed that


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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: goingright]
      #2336954 - 06/29/12 03:11 PM

Here is the rocket:



I can say this is probably the easiest board I have ridden to date. It paddles really really fast, hooks into the wave when you are positioned and takes off. Once up and riding, you got that instant release but at the same time, you can quickly redirect, cut back and just dictate where you wish to go in critical sections. I took off on tons of backside waves and quickly can throw the board under my feet taking off late, and no problem driving off the bottom and making the lines. I only had the cheap fins that comes with the board and its still worked really well. Once I put better fins, the board is gonna blow my mind. Board feels really good under your feet with tons of projection without compromising the sense of control you get in fishes. I cant wait for more sessions. Thanks Mayhem


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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: goingright]
      #2336964 - 06/29/12 03:18 PM



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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: goingright]
      #2336982 - 06/29/12 03:37 PM

Thanks for the review. Don't know of anyone else that has one...besides
adam33. Thoughts??

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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: Oceanslide]
      #2336989 - 06/29/12 03:58 PM

You are very welcome. Fyi: reason I got this board is the rnf is really good in small waves but trips me out when surf gets somewhat good. Rocket compliments nicely. When surf gets really good, I transition to the driver which is unbelievable. So three boards in the golf bag. Right board for the right conditions. Rnf for anything under waist. Rocket for somewhat good waves and driver when its gets good. All three boards magic but need to be used for the right conditions.

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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: goingright]
      #2337475 - 06/30/12 01:38 PM

Quote:

Here is the rocket:



I can say this is probably the easiest board I have ridden to date. It paddles really really fast, hooks into the wave when you are positioned and takes off. Once up and riding, you got that instant release but at the same time, you can quickly redirect, cut back and just dictate where you wish to go in critical sections. I took off on tons of backside waves and quickly can throw the board under my feet taking off late, and no problem driving off the bottom and making the lines. I only had the cheap fins that comes with the board and its still worked really well. Once I put better fins, the board is gonna blow my mind. Board feels really good under your feet with tons of projection without compromising the sense of control you get in fishes. I cant wait for more sessions. Thanks Mayhem




damn, sick board!! I felt up some at catalyst a few weeks back and that board spoke to me. I think Matt has a grovel version coming out soon as well. Thanks for the pics and review of the rnf and v2.


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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: goingright]
      #2337657 - 07/01/12 05:02 AM

Good looking board! what's its dimensions and yours if you don't mind me asking?

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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: Oceanslide]
      #2338084 - 07/02/12 05:14 AM

Quote:

Thanks for the review. Don't know of anyone else that has one...besides
adam33. Thoughts??




I had one. Did not click at all with me. Felt stiff and board felt a bit too much volume for me. Keep in mind I surfed it in ok waves, nothing special, but there were a few waves that lined up and i know I would have surfed much better on my other boards. I'm sure it's a good board, just not for me. Board was well made, outline looks killer. Felt great underarm. So, again, I'm not bashing on board, just not for me.

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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: adam33]
      #2338167 - 07/02/12 09:01 AM

Anyone riding their rocket as a quad?

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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: ciscojaws]
      #2338201 - 07/02/12 09:57 AM

I'm going to order one this week. Mayhem, via his blog, suggested the 5 box set up. So I will definitely be trying it as a quad.

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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: VCaba21]
      #2338204 - 07/02/12 10:03 AM

I would have liked to have it as a 5 fin option as well. good move!

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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: Havoc]
      #2338452 - 07/02/12 02:35 PM

you are welcome Havoc.

Pacific, I'm 180 pounds, 5 11. BoarD is 5 11, 20 2.5

adam, have you run the numbers with the lost catalyst crew before ordering? usually, i the numbers I have in mind and what mayhem suggests are completely different. i was way off on the rnf too


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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: goingright]
      #2338478 - 07/02/12 03:21 PM

Hey,
I bought the V2 on impulse, stock board. It was same size as yours.
Have no idea why it felt clunky to me. The volume should have been perfect. I think I wasn't use to how the volume was distributed. I'm 183.
Should have given it more time before I sold it but my buddy wanted it so I gave it up.

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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: goingright]
      #2338497 - 07/02/12 03:51 PM

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the numbers I have in mind and what mayhem suggests are completely different. i was way off on the rnf too




Different in what way? were MB's recommendations too much foam? Or not enough?


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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: adam33]
      #2338510 - 07/02/12 04:11 PM

Not sure about the V2 but I had a similar experience with two older Rockets as adam33. Worked OK but the foam distribution just didn't work for me. It's a chunky, flat board except for the exaggerated tail rocker. Until the wave is big/steep enough to really lean back and use that rocker, the front half seems to have difficulty getting out if it's own way. In chest high steep waves it went good, but everything does. Think the V2 tries to address these issues but the overall volume and chunkiness looks pretty much the same.

I found the Rock Up with the pulled tail, extra nose rocker and less tail rocker and thinned out rails solved most of the problems I had and works even in smaller surf as long as they have some juice if you get the sizing right. Grocket looks like it might too.


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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: Alex_AJ]
      #2339051 - 07/03/12 12:26 PM

not enough foam and dims are off to what I should be riding....foam is really well hidden on my rocket. as mentioned before, it is the easiest board i have ever ridden. cant ask for anything better

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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: LoneWolf]
      #2350325 - 07/21/12 07:52 AM

Just ordered myself one 5'9 x 19.50 x 2.25 in XTR. Stoked!

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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: Pacific]
      #2350335 - 07/21/12 08:26 AM

Nice. Its really a nice board. Took it out yesterday in small stuff and suprisingly it worked really well. Its a very fast board with tons of hold.

Best board I have ever ridden to date!!!!!!!!! Board description is spot on! I do love the RNF as well

Any recommendations on which fins I should put in the rocket? I'm in the 180 range


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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: goingright]
      #2350736 - 07/22/12 08:41 AM

How small are you talking about? I'm hoping it will cover punchy waist high to mediocre head high for me and still be able to hold in better waves if necessary.

I think raked fins like the AM's are supposed to be good in boards with tail rocker. They have a smaller centre fin too which should be good.


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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: Pacific]
      #2353733 - 07/26/12 11:21 AM

I got the V2 exactly for those conditions and its perfect. Here are the fins I'm currently using. Thoughts?


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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: goingright]
      #2360121 - 08/04/12 04:14 AM

I'm by no means an expert but they look good to me! Got any waves lately?

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Re: ...Lost V2 Rocket? [Re: LoneWolf]
      #2360143 - 08/04/12 07:45 AM

Just when you think you have your mind around the V2.....Out comes the V2 stub. Now I want that one....jeez

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