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Now, Armstrong is firing back in a new statement ... claiming the allegations are "baseless, motivated by spite and advanced through testimony bought and paid for by promises of anonymity and immunity."
Armstrong continues, "I have never doped, and, unlike many of my accusers, I have competed as an endurance athlete for 25 years with no spike in performance, passed more than 500 drug tests and never failed one."
"That USADA ignores this fundamental distinction and charges me instead of the admitted dopers says far more about USADA, its lack of fairness and this vendetta than it does about my guilt or innocence."
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SurfZombie
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Quote: He won the Honu triathlon a couple weeks ago here which puts him in the Ironman later this year. Sounds political.
Not quite. He had to qualify via running IM France (which is in like 2-3 weeks) to make Kona. He still needed the points (which was all but a formality at this point).
Him being suspended prevents him from doing so.
It really does seem like a witchhunt.
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ifallalot
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Not for nothing--but with the scientific data they have (drug tests) and nothing more than speculation (convicted dopers saying they "saw" Lance dope) they should quit while they're behind and still have some credibility left intact.
Guy does an absolute TON of cancer charity work and has touched/helped thousands if not millions. Whether he doped or not he is living proof that you can bounce back and do anything if you put your mind to it. Let him be a symbol of that and put this doping fiasco on the back burner.
Live strong gives hope and inspiration to those fighting for life.
The USADA has been doing its investigation (ironically on Lance's request) since 2007 or so from my understanding. They just had to wait until the federal thing was wrapped up (which they did, but then waited quite a bit longer to take action - the timing is extremely suspect).
From what I've gathered, their entire case rests around two samples taken in 2009 and 2010 that are "B" samples that COULD be consistent with someone who was blood doping or doing blood transfusions in an attempt to mask a positive test. The key word is COULD, in all the documents I've read - they do not spell out what tested that leads them to believe that. In addition, a lot of the case is based off of "eye witness testimony" from fellow riders and ex teammates - which, IMO, is a ton of BS as most of those guys have public vendettas with Armstrong and were caught for doping themselves.
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"In a statement obtained by CNN, U.S. Anti-Doping Agency CEO Travis T. Tygart said the five other people, formerly associated with the U.S. Postal Service pro cycling team, are three team doctors and two team officials. The letter included written notice of alleged anti-doping rule violations, Tygart said "USADA only initiates matters supported by the evidence," Tygart said. "We do not choose whether or not we do our job based on outside pressures, intimidation or for any reason other than the evidence." All named individuals are presumed innocent until proven otherwise, he added."
-------------------- "I mean, it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel."
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Norm'
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Lance stood on the top step of the Tour podium 7 times. Every rider he shared that podium with subsequently got busted for doping (so they were probably doping at the time). Could a clean rider possibly beat them 7 times? Probably not. I wanted to believe it was his natural athletic talent and a tolerance for pain learned from cancer treatment but after his teammates came out against him I've decided to face facts.
P.S. I raced against him at MTB National finals a couple weeks after his first Tour win and was really impressed in his skills in addition to his strength.
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Norm'
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Quote: Lance did drugs and there are many that did with him from the bottom up. He has lots of people behind him fighting to keep the truth from coming out.
must be stressful to continue hiding the truth
OK Jawa.
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Quote: Lance stood on the top step of the Tour podium 7 times. Every rider he shared that podium with subsequently got busted for doping (so they were probably doping at the time). Could a clean rider possibly beat them 7 times?
This is a great point. And you are probably spot on. But for them to do this now? Pretty suspect.
-------------------- "Your ego is not your amigo" ~Tony Alva
Quote: Lance stood on the top step of the Tour podium 7 times. Every rider he shared that podium with subsequently got busted for doping (so they were probably doping at the time). Could a clean rider possibly beat them 7 times? Probably not. I wanted to believe it was his natural athletic talent and a tolerance for pain learned from cancer treatment but after his teammates came out against him I've decided to face facts.
P.S. I raced against him at MTB National finals a couple weeks after his first Tour win and was really impressed in his skills in addition to his strength.
Using that same logic - if everyone else was doing it and everyone else was getting caught - then why did Armstrong never get caught or test positive?
I mean, if he was helping other people dope, dealing PEDs, and doing PEDs with other riders - then how in the world did they get caught and not him? Was he the ONLY ONE with access to the undetectable super drug? I find that tough to believe (especially since Lance's teams were NOT the big super powers - and people on his team got busted).
The arguement "Everyone was doing it and getting caught, so he had to have been doing it too!" works both ways. Why would the testing work on everyone else but not him?
There are only two explanations:
He was doing "better drugs" that no one else had access to (even though he apparently shared his drugs and helped other people dope according to his accusers).
But it's a tough sell to say that Lance Armstrong was the ONLY GUY out of all the cyclists (and many have much more funds, etc than he does) who was able to do drugs and not be detected. Hell, he's been put through the ringer and tested more than anyone.
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Quote: Lance stood on the top step of the Tour podium 7 times. Every rider he shared that podium with subsequently got busted for doping (so they were probably doping at the time). Could a clean rider possibly beat them 7 times? Probably not. I wanted to believe it was his natural athletic talent and a tolerance for pain learned from cancer treatment but after his teammates came out against him I've decided to face facts.
P.S. I raced against him at MTB National finals a couple weeks after his first Tour win and was really impressed in his skills in addition to his strength.
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GWS
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You're completely anonymous on a forum. So share away.
He could tell us, but then he'd have to kill us?
I love the internet.
Jimmy Hoffa OUT!
I was talkin' to this guy, who knew a dude, that talked to this other guy, about some dude, who overheard two guys talkin' about this dude who said he knew something about Lance doping, but that this other guy heard it from some other dude, and that dude ain't talkin'.
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Mo_Fo
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You're completely anonymous on a forum. So share away.
He could tell us, but then he'd have to kill us?
I love the internet.
Jimmy Hoffa OUT!
I was talkin' to this guy, who knew a dude, that talked to this other guy, about some dude, who overheard two guys talkin' about this dude who said he knew something about Lance doping, but that this other guy heard it from some other dude, and that dude ain't talkin'.
Well fvck, if it’s under those circumstances its borderline factual truthiness.
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