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Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time?
      #2334624 - 06/25/12 03:38 PM

According to Quiksilver he is....




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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: ishralp]
      #2334627 - 06/25/12 03:43 PM

greatest current or past without the corporate BS. but not of all time. someone in the future will be better. maybe it'll take 50 years for that athlete to develop but there will be someone better.

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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: stu dog]
      #2334629 - 06/25/12 03:45 PM

Usually, "of all time" refers to time up until the present.

The greatest athlete is the one having the most fun. Or Lebron James.


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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: rice]
      #2334635 - 06/25/12 03:56 PM

When that first came out last week Kelly was bringing up a bunch of athletes with great records that they did not mention in the infographic, like boxers with 89-0-0, etc.

https://twitter.com/#!/kellyslater

Scroll down a bit.

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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: ishralp]
      #2334641 - 06/25/12 04:11 PM

No


based on that criteria he's only tied with Bill Russell with 11 championships.


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Russell is one of the most successful and decorated athletes in North American sports history. His awards and achievements include eleven NBA championships as a player with the Boston Celtics in 13 seasons (including two NBA championships as player/head coach).



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Russell

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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: ishralp]
      #2334643 - 06/25/12 04:19 PM

greatest surfer? yes

greatest athelete? no way jose

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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: ishralp]
      #2334698 - 06/25/12 06:40 PM

I think Quiksilver is having a bit of a piss, as my Irish friends would say. All in good fun.

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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: Malarcus]
      #2334700 - 06/25/12 06:43 PM

My post should not be unexpected by anyone.

Slater is badass.

Bo Jackson, Jim Thorpe, Dave Winfield, and Jackie Robinson are better.

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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: ishralp]
      #2334710 - 06/25/12 07:17 PM

no, but it just points out how lame a "sport" surfing is

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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: hmmm]
      #2334786 - 06/25/12 09:23 PM

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greatest surfer? yes

greatest athelete? no way jose




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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: hmmm]
      #2334855 - 06/26/12 04:29 AM

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greatest surfer? yes

greatest athelete? no way jose



Who's the greatest athlete then?

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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: ifallalot]
      #2334893 - 06/26/12 06:36 AM

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greatest surfer? yes

greatest athelete? no way jose



Who's the greatest athlete then?




Excellent question, and I look forward to the answer.

I can't think of a single athlete in any sport that has so totally dominated their sport for as long as Kelly has.

And please, Tiger Woods? Golf is a recreational activity that people engage in while driving drunk in funny little carts. Fitness is irrelevant.


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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: Clayster]
      #2334895 - 06/26/12 06:38 AM

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greatest surfer? yes

greatest athelete? no way jose



Who's the greatest athlete then?




Excellent question, and I look forward to the answer.

I can't think of a single athlete in any sport that has so totally dominated their sport for as long as Kelly has.

And please, Tiger Woods? Golf is a recreational activity that people engage in while driving drunk in funny little carts. Fitness is irrelevant.





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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: ifallalot]
      #2334933 - 06/26/12 08:04 AM

Hello everybody?????





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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: ishralp]
      #2334935 - 06/26/12 08:06 AM

If he is not the greatest athlete of all time he is definitely near the top. Dominated his sport for longer than anyone, youngest and oldest to win a championship in his sport and more titles than the next best 3 surfers, he is crazy good.

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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: Gaviota75]
      #2334956 - 06/26/12 08:34 AM

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For Michael to be equal to Ke12y he would have had to play from the 70s until today and won the championship nearly every year. Also, Michael wouldn't have been Michael without Scotty Pippen. Ke12y goes at it alone

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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: ifallalot]
      #2334996 - 06/26/12 09:26 AM

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greatest surfer? yes

greatest athelete? no way jose



Who's the greatest athlete then?




Excellent question, and I look forward to the answer.

I can't think of a single athlete in any sport that has so totally dominated their sport for as long as Kelly has.

And please, Tiger Woods? Golf is a recreational activity that people engage in while driving drunk in funny little carts. Fitness is irrelevant.








Yeah right, recreational activity. Forget the drunk people who play Golf. In my opinion, Golf is the hardest game to master and requires an unbelievable amount of mental concentration. Ask Kelly why he plays Golf...:)

Think about it this way. I cannot tell you how many times for example in Tennis, I will be losing badly first set and second set and come back to win the match. Same thing in Surfing, you can blow several waves during a heat and the judges will only pick the 2 highest scores. You can completely kook lots of waves and score 2 solid waves to win.

In Golf, there is absolutely no fukkin room for error. You start the tournament Thursday, you can lead by 5 shots, comes Sunday afternoon for example in Hole number 6, You hit 2 balls in the water, 2 bad shots and the lead is gone Sunday afternoon and you are losing. So that requires a level of concentration for every single minute Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday during all 4 rounds. You can't fukkk up. You play 2 holes bad and you are gone. DONE.

So I guess what I'm saying is Golf is more of a mental sport more than anything. and there is a reason why they drink in the golf course...

I'm going with Tiger as the greatest athlete of all time. I bet he can bench more than any Surfer on tour.


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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: goingright]
      #2335004 - 06/26/12 09:40 AM

Kelly plays scratch golf. Tiger can't surf.

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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: Boneroni]
      #2335005 - 06/26/12 09:41 AM

Slater also mentioned Bjorn Dunkerbeck who absolutely dominated all disciplines of competitive windsurfing for years and years. I think he's still winning stuff.
http://www.dunkerbeck.com/

41 x world champion....

12 x Overall (88/89/90/91/92/93/94/95/96/97/98/99)
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5 x Course Racing (90/91/92/93/94)
4 x Racing (95/96/97/98/99)
7 x Waveriding (90/92/93/94/95/99/01)
1 x Freestyle (98)
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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: goingright]
      #2335009 - 06/26/12 09:46 AM

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greatest surfer? yes

greatest athelete? no way jose



Who's the greatest athlete then?




Excellent question, and I look forward to the answer.

I can't think of a single athlete in any sport that has so totally dominated their sport for as long as Kelly has.

And please, Tiger Woods? Golf is a recreational activity that people engage in while driving drunk in funny little carts. Fitness is irrelevant.








Yeah right, recreational activity. Forget the drunk people who play Golf. In my opinion, Golf is the hardest game to master and requires an unbelievable amount of mental concentration. Ask Kelly why he plays Golf...:)

Think about it this way. I cannot tell you how many times for example in Tennis, I will be losing badly first set and second set and come back to win the match. Same thing in Surfing, you can blow several waves during a heat and the judges will only pick the 2 highest scores. You can completely kook lots of waves and score 2 solid waves to win.

In Golf, there is absolutely no fukkin room for error. You start the tournament Thursday, you can lead by 5 shots, comes Sunday afternoon for example in Hole number 6, You hit 2 balls in the water, 2 bad shots and the lead is gone Sunday afternoon and you are losing. So that requires a level of concentration for every single minute Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday during all 4 rounds. You can't fukkk up. You play 2 holes bad and you are gone. DONE.

So I guess what I'm saying is Golf is more of a mental sport more than anything. and there is a reason why they drink in the golf course...

I'm going with Tiger as the greatest athlete of all time. I bet he can bench more than any Surfer on tour.




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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: goingright]
      #2335010 - 06/26/12 09:46 AM

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In Golf, there is absolutely no fukkin room for error. You start the tournament Thursday, you can lead by 5 shots, comes Sunday afternoon for example in Hole number 6, You hit 2 balls in the water, 2 bad shots and the lead is gone Sunday afternoon and you are losing. So that requires a level of concentration for every single minute Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday during all 4 rounds. You can't fukkk up. You play 2 holes bad and you are gone. DONE.




That sounds really intense from a competition standpoint.


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I'm going with Tiger as the greatest athlete of all time. I bet he can bench more than any Surfer on tour.




Oh, if this is just a benchpress contest then.......


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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: ishralp]
      #2335016 - 06/26/12 09:53 AM

Golf? No.
Bowling? No.
Driving a car? No.
Roided up freak? No.

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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: ifallalot]
      #2335028 - 06/26/12 10:10 AM

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Hello everybody?????







For Michael to be equal to Ke12y he would have had to play from the 70s until today and won the championship nearly every year. Also, Michael wouldn't have been Michael without Scotty Pippen. Ke12y goes at it alone




Why? The question was "greatest athlete of all time?". Even if Michael had only played for 5 seasons and never won a title, he's still an incredible athlete.

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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: ElOgro]
      #2335030 - 06/26/12 10:11 AM

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greatest surfer? yes

greatest athelete? no way jose



Who's the greatest athlete then?




Excellent question, and I look forward to the answer.

I can't think of a single athlete in any sport that has so totally dominated their sport for as long as Kelly has.

And please, Tiger Woods? Golf is a recreational activity that people engage in while driving drunk in funny little carts. Fitness is irrelevant.








Yeah right, recreational activity. Forget the drunk people who play Golf. In my opinion, Golf is the hardest game to master and requires an unbelievable amount of mental concentration. Ask Kelly why he plays Golf...:)

Think about it this way. I cannot tell you how many times for example in Tennis, I will be losing badly first set and second set and come back to win the match. Same thing in Surfing, you can blow several waves during a heat and the judges will only pick the 2 highest scores. You can completely kook lots of waves and score 2 solid waves to win.

In Golf, there is absolutely no fukkin room for error. You start the tournament Thursday, you can lead by 5 shots, comes Sunday afternoon for example in Hole number 6, You hit 2 balls in the water, 2 bad shots and the lead is gone Sunday afternoon and you are losing. So that requires a level of concentration for every single minute Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday during all 4 rounds. You can't fukkk up. You play 2 holes bad and you are gone. DONE.

So I guess what I'm saying is Golf is more of a mental sport more than anything. and there is a reason why they drink in the golf course...

I'm going with Tiger as the greatest athlete of all time. I bet he can bench more than any Surfer on tour.




Send Tiger out at hucking backdoor Pipe.




Yeah, but Tiger backdoored a lot of chicks....


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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: goingright]
      #2335033 - 06/26/12 10:12 AM

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greatest surfer? yes

greatest athelete? no way jose



Who's the greatest athlete then?




Excellent question, and I look forward to the answer.

I can't think of a single athlete in any sport that has so totally dominated their sport for as long as Kelly has.

And please, Tiger Woods? Golf is a recreational activity that people engage in while driving drunk in funny little carts. Fitness is irrelevant.








Yeah right, recreational activity. Forget the drunk people who play Golf. In my opinion, Golf is the hardest game to master and requires an unbelievable amount of mental concentration. Ask Kelly why he plays Golf...:)

Think about it this way. I cannot tell you how many times for example in Tennis, I will be losing badly first set and second set and come back to win the match. Same thing in Surfing, you can blow several waves during a heat and the judges will only pick the 2 highest scores. You can completely kook lots of waves and score 2 solid waves to win.

In Golf, there is absolutely no fukkin room for error. You start the tournament Thursday, you can lead by 5 shots, comes Sunday afternoon for example in Hole number 6, You hit 2 balls in the water, 2 bad shots and the lead is gone Sunday afternoon and you are losing. So that requires a level of concentration for every single minute Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday during all 4 rounds. You can't fukkk up. You play 2 holes bad and you are gone. DONE.

So I guess what I'm saying is Golf is more of a mental sport more than anything. and there is a reason why they drink in the golf course...

I'm going with Tiger as the greatest athlete of all time. I bet he can bench more than any Surfer on tour.




Send Tiger out at hucking backdoor Pipe.




Yeah, but Tiger backdoored a lot of chicks....




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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: surfaider]
      #2335035 - 06/26/12 10:14 AM

If golf is athletic, then bowling is athletic. And, if bowling, then darts?

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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: ifallalot]
      #2335036 - 06/26/12 10:15 AM

Slater is a great athlete no doubt, but I think he's up against inferior competition compared to most of the greats who play(ed) "real" sports.

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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: Norm']
      #2335037 - 06/26/12 10:15 AM

At least it hasn't gone to the champs head.
Read from the bottom post up.


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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: surfaider]
      #2335044 - 06/26/12 10:17 AM

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greatest surfer? yes

greatest athelete? no way jose



Who's the greatest athlete then?




Excellent question, and I look forward to the answer.

I can't think of a single athlete in any sport that has so totally dominated their sport for as long as Kelly has.

And please, Tiger Woods? Golf is a recreational activity that people engage in while driving drunk in funny little carts. Fitness is irrelevant.








Yeah right, recreational activity. Forget the drunk people who play Golf. In my opinion, Golf is the hardest game to master and requires an unbelievable amount of mental concentration. Ask Kelly why he plays Golf...:)

Think about it this way. I cannot tell you how many times for example in Tennis, I will be losing badly first set and second set and come back to win the match. Same thing in Surfing, you can blow several waves during a heat and the judges will only pick the 2 highest scores. You can completely kook lots of waves and score 2 solid waves to win.

In Golf, there is absolutely no fukkin room for error. You start the tournament Thursday, you can lead by 5 shots, comes Sunday afternoon for example in Hole number 6, You hit 2 balls in the water, 2 bad shots and the lead is gone Sunday afternoon and you are losing. So that requires a level of concentration for every single minute Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday during all 4 rounds. You can't fukkk up. You play 2 holes bad and you are gone. DONE.

So I guess what I'm saying is Golf is more of a mental sport more than anything. and there is a reason why they drink in the golf course...

I'm going with Tiger as the greatest athlete of all time. I bet he can bench more than any Surfer on tour.




Send Tiger out at hucking backdoor Pipe.




Yeah, but Tiger backdoored a lot of chicks....




Hahahahaha.. zing!




So how'd that work out on his mug and wallet? Hahahahaha.. double zing.

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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: Boneroni]
      #2335053 - 06/26/12 10:27 AM

Kelly is definitely a humble dude, the part about comparing athletes across different sports being a moot point is spot on, it is hard enough comparing guys from the same sport from different generations. Especially sports like surfing/golf where technology plays a role.

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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: ishralp]
      #2335056 - 06/26/12 10:28 AM

>not taking into consideration no. of participants/talent pool




Huge Slater fan and definitely a top athlete among all sports, but surfing is on the lower end of the spectrum when it comes to size of talent pool.

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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: LAisntsobad]
      #2335057 - 06/26/12 10:33 AM

Golf is not a sport.

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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: Scallywag]
      #2335058 - 06/26/12 10:33 AM

neither is surfing

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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: ishralp]
      #2335132 - 06/26/12 12:51 PM

This guy: Reinhold Messner

He performed feats of incredible strength, endurance, and skill in places a thousand times more dangerous than Mavs or huge Chopes or wherever (one mistake and you don't paddle back out or get picked up by a ski - you're dead!) Often without the Oxygen that keeps lesser men alive.

Runners up would be Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods. In their respective primes, both were so much better than the next best guy in sports with several hundred million participants and literally hundreds of thousands of competitive participants). Lance, Bo, and the people who have won 6 Ironmans are up there, too. And Sandy Koufax.


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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: hammies]
      #2335139 - 06/26/12 01:11 PM

everyone mentioned in this thread is

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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: ishralp]
      #2335141 - 06/26/12 01:12 PM

most dominant in his respective sport, yes.

not the greatest athlete...since that directly implies athletic ability.

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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: ishralp]
      #2335242 - 06/26/12 04:47 PM

I don't know if he is or not,

but he should be in the conversation for certain.
However, he's a hêll of a lot of fun to watch ripping
a wave to pieces.


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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: c_olden]
      #2335254 - 06/26/12 05:12 PM

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Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time?




yes

'cept fer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretariat_(horse)



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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: RbrOutlier]
      #2335270 - 06/26/12 06:17 PM

no. aliens don't count.

this thread needs to be revisited the next time we all have JUST watched twelvy slayer do what he does in contrast with the other best surfing humans on the planet. seems some of you have fuzzy mammories.

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Re: Is Kelly Slater Really The Greatest Athlete of All Time? [Re: ElOgro]
      #2335297 - 06/26/12 07:53 PM

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greatest surfer? yes

greatest athelete? no way jose



Who's the greatest athlete then?




Excellent question, and I look forward to the answer.

I can't think of a single athlete in any sport that has so totally dominated their sport for as long as Kelly has.

And please, Tiger Woods? Golf is a recreational activity that people engage in while driving drunk in funny little carts. Fitness is irrelevant.








Yeah right, recreational activity. Forget the drunk people who play Golf. In my opinion, Golf is the hardest game to master and requires an unbelievable amount of mental concentration. Ask Kelly why he plays Golf...:)

Think about it this way. I cannot tell you how many times for example in Tennis, I will be losing badly first set and second set and come back to win the match. Same thing in Surfing, you can blow several waves during a heat and the judges will only pick the 2 highest scores. You can completely kook lots of waves and score 2 solid waves to win.

In Golf, there is absolutely no fukkin room for error. You start the tournament Thursday, you can lead by 5 shots, comes Sunday afternoon for example in Hole number 6, You hit 2 balls in the water, 2 bad shots and the lead is gone Sunday afternoon and you are losing. So that requires a level of concentration for every single minute Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday during all 4 rounds. You can't fukkk up. You play 2 holes bad and you are gone. DONE.

So I guess what I'm saying is Golf is more of a mental sport more than anything. and there is a reason why they drink in the golf course...

I'm going with Tiger as the greatest athlete of all time. I bet he can bench more than any Surfer on tour.




Send Tiger out at hucking backdoor Pipe.




this. Slater could play any of these sports, to some degree (and probably not even too shabbily at most). none of the other contenders can even function in his arena.


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