Chris Frohoff
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I hope Joe Paterno rots in hell. In related news, I hear the catholic church wants to purchase the statue.
Joe Paterno statue taken down
The Joe Paterno statue was removed Sunday morning from its pedestal outside Beaver Stadium, and it will be stored in an unnamed "secure location," Penn State president Rodney Erickson announced. Erickson also said the Paterno name will remain on the university's library.
Shortly before dawn in State College, Pa., a work crew installed chain-link fences to barricade access to Porter Road outside Beaver Stadium and covered the fence with a blue tarp.
The work crew then removed the 7-foot, 900-pound bronze statue by forklift and placed it into the lower level of the stadium. Erickson released his highly sensitive decision to the public at 7 a.m. ET Sunday.
Penn State: 'A Source Of Division'
Paterno statue Penn State president Rodney Erickson, in a news release Sunday morning, called the Joe Paterno statue outside Beaver Stadium "an obstacle to healing in our University and beyond." Complete statement
Workers lifted the 7-foot-tall statue off its base and used a forklift to move it into Beaver Stadium as the 100 to 150 students watched, some chanting, "We are Penn State."
The decision came 10 days after a scathing report by former FBI director Louis J. Freeh found that Paterno, with three other top Penn State administrators, had concealed allegations of child sexual abuse made against former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky. The Freeh report concluded their motive was to shield the university and its football program from negative publicity.
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Joe really messed up, too bad he wasnt man enough to do tbe right thing
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HatterasGlass
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I as really hoping that statue would become the next Cardiff Kook. There would be SO much potential there with that finger in the air and all.....   
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Tomorrow the NCAA will impose severe sanctions on the Penn State football team, including loss of bowl game eligibility and reduced scholarships for a few years.
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they're changing the name from Penn State to State Penn (itentary)
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Tomorrow the NCAA will impose severe sanctions on the Penn State football team, including loss of bowl game eligibility and reduced scholarships for a few years.
Good thing their players didn't take money or the penalty might have been worse. 
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Tomorrow the NCAA will impose severe sanctions on the Penn State football team, including loss of bowl game eligibility and reduced scholarships for a few years.
Good thing their players didn't take money or the penalty might have been worse.
I know. Giving USC crippling multi-year sanctions for, basically, Reggie Bush being a greedy dick seems to pale in consideration with this PSU situation. Unprecedented in the NCAA's enforcement history. Read it tomorrow; the penalties to PSU will be at least as bad as those given to USC.
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they're changing the name from Penn State to State Penn (itentary)
If the NCAA doesn't use the "Death Penalty", in this case, they are a joke.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Joe really messed up, too bad he wasnt man enough to do tbe right thing
Agreed. Although most people seem to focus on the 'athletic' aspect of this issue...meaning sanctions against the football program. More people knew
about what was happening than those in the football program only.
As a father, it's absolutely sickening to think that anything as serious as
that which happened at PSU could even possibly happen anywhere.
IMO, because they've proven Paterno knew about what happened, there should be NOTHING
on that campus that bears his name, regardless of the success he brought
to the athletic program.
I hope they can recover and achieve success again.
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Norm'
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Joe really messed up, too bad he wasnt man enough to do tbe right thing
Agreed. Although most people seem to focus on the 'athletic' aspect of this issue...meaning sanctions against the football program. More people knew
about what was happening than those in the football program only.
As a father, it's absolutely sickening to think that anything as serious as
that which happened at PSU could even possibly happen anywhere.
IMO, because they've proven Paterno knew about what happened, there should be NOTHING
on that campus that bears his name, regardless of the success he brought
to the athletic program.
I hope they can recover and achieve success again.
The entire reason this was swept under the rug for more than a decade, while more children were raped, was to protect the FOOTBALL program. All of the major players put football above the safety of children. $$$$$$, football and prestige were more important than children. Abuse it lose it, needs to be the message.
Do you think they would have covered this up for the men's badminton team? 
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they're changing the name from Penn State to State Penn (itentary)
If the NCAA doesn't use the "Death Penalty", in this case, they are a joke.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
If there ever was a reason to completely decimate an athletic program, it's this.
Penn State violated the trust of parents and kids at the most basic of all levels.
They ought to haul that statue out and sink it in the deepest part of the Atlantic seaboard, with Sanduski's corpse inside.
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Someone post the photos of the angry mob that formed when he was fired  Hundreds of "students" throwing rocks and tipping over cars because creepy old paterno got shtcanned.
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Someone post the photos of the angry mob that formed when he was fired Hundreds of "students" throwing rocks and tipping over cars because creepy old paterno got shtcanned.
I think living in Pennsylvania would make anyone deranged.
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Someone post the photos of the angry mob that formed when he was fired Hundreds of "students" throwing rocks and tipping over cars because creepy old paterno got shtcanned.
I think living in Pennsylvania would make anyone deranged.
I have been there,It'z like another world all together
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they're changing the name from Penn State to State Penn (itentary)
If the NCAA doesn't use the "Death Penalty", in this case, they are a joke.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
If there ever was a reason to completely decimate an athletic program, it's this.
Penn State violated the trust of parents and kids at the most basic of all levels.
They ought to haul that statue out and sink it in the deepest part of the Atlantic seaboard, with Sanduski's corpse inside.
I usually disagree with the Death Penalty, because it is punishing current students for the transgressions of (usually) a single alumni but in this case Penn State protected Sandusky so the FOOTBALL program wouldn't be hurt.
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No death penalty. Makes you wonder what the hell SMU really did to become the only school in history to receive the NCAA death penalty. It's hard to believe NCAA didn't just end the football program there all together. At the same time, I'm not surprised. After all, football is their biggest money maker and Penn State was one of the top football programs.
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In cases where schools have huge football programs like Penn State, the football program funds ALL other athletic programs as well.
What did SMU do? Craig James killed six hookers
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I can't believe the NCAA failed to sentence Penn State's football program to death. The fine
represents one year football revenue at Penn State. Woo Hoo. The NCAA gave SMU the death
sentence for giving away cash and cars. But raping children and covering it up so that the football
program can continue to profit?.....
.......No problem.
People should have seen this coming when Penn State refused to remove Paterno's statue until
the day before this slap on the wrist, when the NCAA announced they were going to punish Penn
State. Now the NCAA makes big bucks from a football program institutionally raping children.
And Penn State's future is rosy.
The NCAA chief showed his hand by saying he had never seen anything so egregious. The
NCAA HAS issued stiffer penalties, but those were only in Louisiana, Kentucky, Georgia, and
Texas.
Justice is dead.
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I usually disagree with the Death Penalty, because it is punishing current students for the
transgressions of (usually) a single alumni but in this case Penn State protected Sandusky so the
FOOTBALL program wouldn't be hurt.
Looks like Paterno and Penn State's President were successful. They accomplished their goal, and
protected the football program.
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I usually disagree with the Death Penalty, because it is punishing current students for the
transgressions of (usually) a single alumni but in this case Penn State protected Sandusky so the
FOOTBALL program wouldn't be hurt.
Looks like Paterno and Penn State's President were successful. They accomplished their goal, and
protected the football program.
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I know. Sad.
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If they had just turned him in, as soon as they knew, this would have been a minor blip for their program. But, I guess they thought a blip was far worse than raping children.
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from way out on left field... and only a "feeling"
The fact that all these "men" were protecting another "man" (cockroaches really) from being exposed for years and years makes me wonder if it really was the football program they were trying to save. Such an entrenched pedophile being protected causes me to wonder if it wasn't something much more sinister.
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from way out on left field... and only a "feeling"
The fact that all these "men" were protecting another "man" (cockroaches really) from being exposed for years and years makes me wonder if it really was the football program they were trying to save. Such an entrenched pedophile being protected causes me to wonder if it wasn't something much more sinister.
Like if Sandusky had something on one or more of them?
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from way out on left field... and only a "feeling"
The fact that all these "men" were protecting another "man" (cockroaches really) from being exposed
for years and years makes me wonder if it really was the football program they were trying to save.
Such an entrenched pedophile being protected causes me to wonder if it wasn't something much more
sinister.
Like if Sandusky had something on one or more of them?
Any time male-on-male pedophilia gets exposed in big headlines it exposes the homosexual
aspect of the crime. There actually IS a massive homosexual cabal. Look at ANY power
structure. It gets its biggest power via this conspiracy.
These people will do almost anything to avoid this kind of publicity. That's where you'll find
your conspiracy.
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from way out on left field... and only a "feeling"
The fact that all these "men" were protecting another "man" (cockroaches really) from being exposed
for years and years makes me wonder if it really was the football program they were trying to save.
Such an entrenched pedophile being protected causes me to wonder if it wasn't something much more
sinister.
Like if Sandusky had something on one or more of them?
Any time male-on-male pedophilia gets exposed in big headlines it exposes the homosexual
aspect of the crime. There actually IS a massive homosexual cabal. Look at ANY power
structure. It gets its biggest power via this conspiracy.
These people will do almost anything to avoid this kind of publicity. That's where you'll find
your conspiracy.
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You're confused again. I'll leave you alone.
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they're changing the name from Penn State to State Penn (itentary)
If the NCAA doesn't use the "Death Penalty", in this case, they are a joke.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Didn't read the rest of the thread, but the "death penalty" in this case would have been a lot better for Penn State than what they received.
If they suspended football for a year or two at Penn State - the program would still pick up where it left off. Two years no football, on the third year - the coach would be able to recruit players and build anew and build fresh. Penn State would be the same as it was in 2013/2014.
With this punishment, they're screwed for awhile. You're going to see an exodus of Penn State players from the program and it's impossible to recruit when players cannot play in bowls for four years. To top that off, they'll have 15 scholarship athletes, which means that when the post season ban ends in 2017 - they will be VERY thin throughout their team with scholarships being given to people who don't deserve them.
The bad thing is that this is going to complete F-U-C-K over the other sports - as football has to donate it's revenue. Guess that means the wrestling team doesn't get new headgear this season
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They'll still put butts in the seats, still be on TV, still selling merchandise, still selling concessions and still be collecting money. It should have been 4-5 years, with NO football.
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No death penalty. Makes you wonder what the hell SMU really did to become the only school in history to receive the NCAA death penalty. It's hard to believe NCAA didn't just end the football program there all together. At the same time, I'm not surprised. After all, football is their biggest money maker and Penn State was one of the top football programs.
SMU basically just had illegal benefits and all that crap that (basically) all schools have.
The death penalty wouldn't have killed SMU had they simply taken the one year ban and then started fresh and picked up anew.
It killed SMU because the leadership at the university decided to extend the ban to two years so they could focus on how to "de-football" their school. They completely changed the culture away from football, so they ended up going from a football team who was putting its foot in the door to becoming good - to a football team who is a bottom feeder. Most of that had to do with SMU's implentation of rules AFTER the "death penalty" (and the fact that they voluntarily doubled their penalty).
All of the above would never happen with a money maker like Penn State. If the "death penalty" was issued - Penn State would ignore football until the penalty was up and then start anew. They're too big a program not to.
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They'll still put butts in the seats, still be on TV, still selling merchandise, still selling concessions and still be collecting money. It should have been 4-5 years, with NO football.
I agree. I would have preferred to see a 1-2 year football ban AND the same scholarship restrictions afterwards.
but the fact is - none of this stuff is written in the NCAA bylaws and they basically had to (literally) make things up to apply a punishment in this case.
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from way out on left field... and only a "feeling"
The fact that all these "men" were protecting another "man" (cockroaches really) from being exposed
for years and years makes me wonder if it really was the football program they were trying to save.
Such an entrenched pedophile being protected causes me to wonder if it wasn't something much more
sinister.
Like if Sandusky had something on one or more of them?
Any time male-on-male pedophilia gets exposed in big headlines it exposes the homosexual
aspect of the crime. There actually IS a massive homosexual cabal. Look at ANY power
structure. It gets its biggest power via this conspiracy.
These people will do almost anything to avoid this kind of publicity. That's where you'll find
your conspiracy.
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Now it's a homosexual thing?
Because there are no pedophile groups targeting girls? Ay dios mio!
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Hentai
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I agree that Penn State should get the "Death Penalty" in this case. Read somewhere that in the case of SMU they were already under some kind of ban, then commited another offense which I guess in the eyes of the NCAA means termination of football program. Can`t see how something as heavy as this would go without the "Death Penalty".
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from way out on left field... and only a "feeling"
The fact that all these "men" were protecting another "man" (cockroaches really) from being exposed for years and years makes me wonder if it really was the football program they were trying to save. Such an entrenched pedophile being protected causes me to wonder if it wasn't something much more sinister.
Like if Sandusky had something on one or more of them?
Probably not far off. Weren't there allegations that he was using some of his charities basically as an escort service? Any light shone on the other clients?
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PSU is done.
The entire school is affected by this.
Answer this question.....Would you send your child to PSU?
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On the way to work this morning I pushed the wrong button on my radio. Therefore, I had the wonderful privilege of listening to ex Penn State DT Brandon Noble on ESPN radio complaining how unfair it will be for incoming kids this fall to play for Penn State with all the sanctions levied against the program. In his odd view, why are they punishing the kids to play for PSU?
Are you kidding me!?!?!
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they're changing the name from Penn State to State Penn (itentary)
If the NCAA doesn't use the "Death Penalty", in this case, they are a joke.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
If there ever was a reason to completely decimate an athletic program, it's this.
Penn State violated the trust of parents and kids at the most basic of all levels.
They ought to haul that statue out and sink it in the deepest part of the Atlantic seaboard, with Sanduski's corpse inside.
This.
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Right out of college, I worked for a company made up almost entirely of Penn Staters. By far, the biggest entitled wankers based on only the fact of where they went to school. You would honestly have thought that Joe Pa walked on water and that Penn State football was the only team that ever mattered or will matter. The only thing I liked about them was that they didn't surf.
I REALLY wish I still worked there now.
One wonders where Paterno's finger in the statue had been over the years....
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Thatz a shame
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