luvtosurf77
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I just had a Pizza Hut "Big New Yorker" and thats about as good as I;ve had.
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nep
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Are you baiting us?
Because if Pizza Hut is the best you've had, I'm kind of busted up about that.
You owe it to yourself and your friends to seek out only the best pizza in your town and stick with that pizzeria, support them, because I tell you what: it ain't gonna be any chain restaurant like the Hut or Round Table or Little Caesar's or any of that crap. It's going to be some obscure but well worn joint with a PROPHET and MASTER standing there near the window or maybe in back by the brick oven, throwing dough. Yes, making a real pizza. Thin crust, New York style. Cheese only, or if you're feeling adventurous maybe cheese and pepperoni or cheese and anchovie and onion.
You have to seek out the pizza places. Start with the phone book because some of the good places aren't on the internet. Recon one some weeknight and see how good it is. Really taste the pizza. See how thin it is. Watch how when you pick it up off the pan, it slops gently downwards but cheese doesn't go sliding off of it. Test the membrane, that thin layer of crust with the goo on top from the bottom of the sauce ... it should be nearly invisible and never soupy. This is an art as much of a science my friend and don't kid yourself. American is fraught with horrible pizza. Simply disgusting creations by neaderthals. Don't get in line with the cows and they lead their tastebuds towards the slaughter of mediocrity. Break out and break away and seek and ye shall find.
Check out this book: "American Pie: My Search for the Perfect Pizza" by Peter Reinhart. That's a good start. Understand the rules and part of the magic. Then go out and discover the dedicated tradesman in your town who has dedicated himself body and soul to making pizza. These men exist. They love life and they love pizza. They learned all the rules and them broke them in their quest for understanding and perfection.
And check out this website, it contains a list of good pizza restaurants across the country, but again, start with your local yellow pages, old school style: Pizza Wisdom Here
Do it and enter a world of true artistry.
-nep
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poulsen
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I work at this fancy Italian restaurant called Brio tuscan grille and we just added this sweet shrimp margherita pizza and I had it tonight after my shift and it was the most amazing thing ever. thats it
shrimp margherita pizza from brio 
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LeeD
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Loc: Berkeley,CA
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I'm lazy...like Zachary's Big Meat Combo...yummmmm
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SurfingLamb
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Reged: 06/29/04
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Lou Maltanis.
I am a pizza eating machine and it is by far my favorite food. Ive had millions of different pizzas, and Uncle Lous in Chicago is by far the best. Nothing compares.
Aloha
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luvtosurf77
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Posts: 3091
Loc: VA
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Hey Nep,
No, I wasn;t baiting you. I live in VA and there isnt a heck of a lot of real pizza places here. When I lived in NJ there were some good ones there, but here it is almost all chains. The thing that gets me about the chains is how they cook a pizza on a conveyor belt, without the big pizza oven. I will always miss that about a true pizza joint.
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Anonymous
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Lambrini's..its a little joint down the street in a little plaza..the owner Leo, hes got a City heart, into photography, feels the same towards the Campbell/San Jose area as i do, and is planning on retiring to oregon or vancouver...f*cking bomb ass pizza...
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nep
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Lynchburg: Vitos Pizza
"...People say it is the best in Lynchburg and Roanoke VA."
Midlothian: Gino's
"The service plus just the right amount of sauce and cheese."
Norfolk: Cafe 21
"The pizza is simply the best by far. Eveything about it was heavenly."
Richmond: Bottoms Up Pizza
"Sourdough Crust with distinct olive oil taste...Just the right combo of everything with a great selection..."
Roanoke: Frank's Pizza
"This pizza rocks! It's like real New York pizza in Virginia, only BETTER.
Decor is hokie, but I insist on going every time I'm in town."
Roanoke: Jimmy V's
"The toppings make it good, plenty of them and quite a variety!"
Virginia Beach: Sal's Bella Pizza
"...family operated- father is from Italy and mother from Philly. The pizza is New York style- best sauce and cheese on the East Coast..."
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Hey Nep,
No, I wasn;t baiting you. I live in VA and there isnt a heck of a lot of real pizza places here. When I lived in NJ there were some good ones there, but here it is almost all chains. The thing that gets me about the chains is how they cook a pizza on a conveyor belt, without the big pizza oven. I will always miss that about a true pizza joint.
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cdan2031
Michael Peterson status
Reged: 08/09/03
Posts: 1946
Loc: O-side
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The Hungrier you are the better the pizza is
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luvtosurf77
Michael Peterson status
Reged: 06/12/03
Posts: 3091
Loc: VA
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Ha Nep you have come through for me. I will be checking them out.
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VP
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Reged: 09/20/03
Posts: 1583
Loc: Hangin with Snoop and Ferrell.
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Quote:
Hey Nep,
No, I wasn;t baiting you. I live in VA and there isnt a heck of a lot of real pizza places here. When I lived in NJ there were some good ones there, but here it is almost all chains. The thing that gets me about the chains is how they cook a pizza on a conveyor belt, without the big pizza oven. I will always miss that about a true pizza joint.
Dude, Napolis in Va. Bch. It's run by some Italian guy from Long island. Great Pizza. Then theres Sal Bellas, The whole family runs the place. They are part Greek. The 2 daughters are some real hotties too. Best philly cheese in the area. Pizza is good but not quite as good as Napolis.
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Anonymous
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Pizza's sorta cool. SB downtown has 2 true pizza joints that I know of; Uncle Rocco's NY Pizza which is surprisingly good, and Gino's. The owner of Uncle Rocco's is a crook and I refuse to give him my business, and Ginos has really weird hours. There's another one on the west side that's great called Paesano's, but I don't ermember the name. Dominoes, Pizza Hut, Shakeys and the like should be avoided. If a business expands more than a few locations, many seem to lose that special something, whether it's pizza, furniture, beer, pie, automobile repair, etc. It's not always true, but how many pizza places can you name that have truly epic pizza and 10 locations.
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Anonymous
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im eating semi-warm/cold leftover Lambrinis meat special, and its still better than pizza hut, etc etc...papa johns has good pizza as far as chains go..and round table is good for after a surf because they dont fill you up right away so you can eat hella slices and be fat and happy....
i just said hella..
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Stefan
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Loc: Venice, CA, USA
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Quote:
Lou Maltanis.
I am a pizza eating machine and it is by far my favorite food. Ive had millions of different pizzas, and Uncle Lous in Chicago is by far the best. Nothing compares.
Aloha
Bryan
You're in Venice right? Try Abbbots on Abbot Kinney....SICK PIZZA 
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skip
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I remember going to venice and at Del Cor pizza the -clam & garlic pizza was sooooooo good also the tasmanian special!! In Ojai the best pizza in ventura is Boccali's --by far the best pizza I have eaten!
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LESider
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Reged: 11/25/03
Posts: 2952
Loc: LowerEastSide NYC
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I really shouldn't get involved in this as I live on the Lower East Side of Manhattan but I have to say Sal at Rosarios makes the best pie in the area, there is alot of crappy pizza in NYC but there is a ton of great pizza!! I love pizza but would rather that NYC had great waves!
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centrlcoastgrom
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Reged: 03/20/03
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Loc: onshores, rocks and sharks.
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some place in tahoe ***** whats it called starts with a j i think. Best pizza ever. but whats it called?  so good. to bad its in tahoe
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LESider
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Loc: LowerEastSide NYC
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I hope you west coast guys don't put avacadoes and sprouts on your pizza that would be soo wrong! 
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Anonymous
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One thing for sure is that Southern California has, without a doubt, the finest pizza in America, perhaps the world, superior to anywhere on the east coast and most places in Italy, where it hasn't evolved and they're still making pizza with tomatoes instead of sauce.
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Anonymous
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I hope you west coast guys don't put avacadoes and sprouts on your pizza that would be soo wrong!
http://www.nypizzakitchen.com
NY Pizza Kitchen
New York Club Pizza
Nueske's applewood smoked bacon, grilled chicken and Mozzarella cheese, hearth-baked then topped with Roma tomatoes, chilled chopped lettuce tossed in mayonnaise and fresh sliced avocados.
Thai Chicken
Pieces of chicken breast marinated in a spicy peanut-ginger and sesame sauce, Mozzarella cheese, green onions, bean sprouts, julienne carrots, cilantro and roasted peanuts.
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LESider
Michael Peterson status
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There is no NY pizza kitchen in New York so it must be a SoCal thing hiding behind a NY name!
Cap'nn I know your game "I'm trying to start a heated sandwich debate since I don't participate in political debates. I really want to debate about something"
sound familiar! You know I'm right on this one
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Debaser
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Reged: 05/20/03
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Loc: SoCal
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Old town Pasadena..... La Fornaretta.... beautiful pies there man! 
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buttholesurfer
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For cali our local spot is Lamp Post,But Jersey and Phili got way beat. 
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Anonymous
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There is no NY pizza kitchen in New York so it must be a SoCal thing hiding behind a NY name!
Cap'nn I know your game "I'm trying to start a heated sandwich debate since I don't participate in political debates. I really want to debate about something"
sound familiar! You know I'm right on this one
You caught me red handed, it's CPK in CA. 
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BuddaBoy
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One thing for sure is that Southern California has, without a doubt, the finest pizza in America, perhaps the world, superior to anywhere on the east coast and most places in Italy, where it hasn't evolved and they're still making pizza with tomatoes instead of sauce.
Oh dear lord in heaven please tell me you are kidding.
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Stefan
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Reged: 06/13/02
Posts: 8289
Loc: Venice, CA, USA
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I'm waiting on a Large Super Supreme, thincrust from Pizza Hut right now......Not the best, bet good enough....MMMMmmmmmm
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Waldo
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Loc: Back to the Beach
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It's far from traditional, but I love CPK.
Mario's in Westwood Villiage used to make an outstandingly light thin crust (haven't ben for about 10 years though - dunno if they're still there.)
Lamonica's, also in Westwood, is my favorite place from ultra-greasy pie by the slice.
But I still haven't found a great pizza place here in the HB/SB/Newp area. 
Any recommendations would be most appreciated.
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IRIEJET
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Reged: 12/18/02
Posts: 3893
Loc: redondo bch,calif 90277
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Hey Waldo there are building one right down the street,Stoked!
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Random Guy
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didn't someone say that calzone was the best pizza 
actually, i had really good pizza in hermosa beach pretty close to the pier. paesano's or something like that. anyone been there?
good pizza in california. go figure
cowabunga
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DanSurfSouthBay
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Reged: 01/18/03
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Loc: from down there, live up here
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ive got you all beat. i just ate some pizza last night, here in ROME! THE LAND OF THE PIZZA, and it was delicious. choo lose.
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Debaser
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Loc: SoCal
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ive got you all beat. i just ate some pizza last night, here in ROME! THE LAND OF THE PIZZA, and it was delicious. choo lose.
You fvcker!  .... I bet the pizza there is a whole different experience than the states. Good on ya man.
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Rufus
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Loc: Newport Shores
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In South OC, I'm goind with Dana Point's one and only Stuft Pizza. That place rules!
And, you can go next door and look at some vintage Hobies.
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Anonymous
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3753575.stm
Italy mulls pizza protection law
It might be copied worldwide but there is only one true Neapolitan pizza.
Italy has drawn up a series of rules that must be met for a Neapolitan pizza to be worthy of the name.
The regulations are designed to protect and promote the original, traditional Neapolitan pizza.
The proposed new law includes a step-by-step guide to the perfect pizza.
It covers pizza shape, depth, toppings and even the way olive oil must be poured on top.
"Pizza-making is an art, you need passion to make pizza," Alfredo Folliero, of the European Union Traditional Pizza Association, told BBC News Online.
"It's all in the dough and the rolling technique which has developed over hundreds of years," he added.
Labour of love
The pizza dough, "which should be soft, elastic and not sticky" must be left to rest for at least six hours, the regulations specify.
The dough must be kneaded, shaped and coaxed into a perfectly round disc by hand.
"Rolling pins or other mechanical instruments are not permitted," the rules admonish.
Drawn up by the Agriculture Ministry and professional Neapolitan pizza-makers, the guidelines were printed in the Gazzetta Ufficiale, a publication normally reserved for financial and legal notices.
But in Italy this is serious stuff: the proposed law says the pizza must be no more than 35 cm in diameter and no thicker than a third of a centimetre at its centre, rising to 2cm at the crust.
Preserving pizza purity
The eight articles and six sub-clauses will form the bible for pizza-makers in Naples - where Italy claims the pizza was born more than 300 years ago - and beyond.
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SFKneelo
Gerry Lopez status
Reged: 02/11/03
Posts: 1119
Loc: Bay Area
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Up here... maybe Amici's... but there are so many!
Down there... Pizza Port in Solana Beach
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Flat-n-Stinky
Legend (inyourownmind)
Reged: 01/25/04
Posts: 224
Loc: Lake Ontario
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Mine! Fresh basil, fresh cheese, fresh dough, fresh sauce...MMMMmmm.
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turkeyJaw
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Posts: 285
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LaRocco's SC
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rice
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Posts: 14065
Loc: Central Coast, CA
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Pizza Port in Solana Beach
Pizza Port in Morro Bay is my favorite.
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Reality Check
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Reged: 02/07/02
Posts: 6235
Loc: Nor Cal
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Up here Gasparis is by far my favorite in SF(and in fairly close proximity to OB).
Speaking of which Nep, perhaps we should do a recovery celebration there.
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Reality Check
Phil Edwards status
Reged: 02/07/02
Posts: 6235
Loc: Nor Cal
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Ha ha that photo of Dustin is pretty funny, I used to know Dustin pretty well back when I lived in MB. 
Good guy and one hell of a surfer!
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Tiny Universe
Phil Edwards status
Reged: 12/12/03
Posts: 6809
Loc: Oceanside, Ghetto by the Sea
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Two completely different styles...
Pizza Port Carlsbad/Solana Beach/San Clemente
Knockout Pizza in Carlsbad (same as Bronx Pizza in Hillcrest)
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