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john4surf
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Reged: 05/28/05
Posts: 4390
Loc: CBS
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Had been noticing more and more eye floaters the past decade. Especially when waiting outside for a set to roll in. Most prominent when looking at the clear sky. Mostly annoying little squiggly things floating in my line of vision. So, after a recent trip from the middle east and a lot of hours on a plane I noticed a greater mass of floaters and flashes or sparks in my right eye.
Went to Scripps to see their specialist who examines and declares I simply have to live with it. Got a second opinion by another specialist, same prognosis. It's a bitch. Although both MDs declared the time in a plane has no affect on my floaters, my left eye developed more mass and flashing after a round trip, San D'go to Argentina in 5 days.
Anyone have any experience dealing/resolving floaters? I am looking at a clinic in FL - web site -http://www.vitreousfloaters.com/pages/1/index.htm
If you've had luck/bad luck I would appreciate your feedback or comments.
Thanks! 
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fracas
Michael Peterson status
Reged: 03/22/04
Posts: 3016
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What do your floaters look like? Candida yeast grow cells with intervening hyphae or strands. I think most people's floaters look something like this:
Do a google search for "candida floaters". Such a search would seem subjective. It is. Lots of the sites you find are prejudiced. But some of the sites are good medical sites which link eye floaters to diet, and an overabundance of the yeast candida albicans.
That's not to say that floaters aren't sometimes caused by other things, like detachment of the vitreous eye fluid. So it's a good thing you got your eyes checked by an eye doctor.
Exercise regularly. Stop eating sweets. Stop drinking and breathing chlorine. Regulate your fruit intake. Take reasonably large B and C vitamins.
My lasik doc started me using eye drops. Drops keep eyes moist. I think my doc was correct. I think the drop effect makes my eyes healthier.
Your corner pharmacy probably sells two kinds of eye drops, simply saline, and zinc eye drops. Besides the above diet, supplement and exercise regimen, I've reduced my floaters by mixing these eye drops and using them. The zinc helps control yeast growth.
Broken record here. So many different Western symptoms are caused by the same things, sugar and chlorine. Stop ingesting them.
No really, you don't have to thank me.
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john4surf
Miki Dora status
Reged: 05/28/05
Posts: 4390
Loc: CBS
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Thanks Fracas. The floaters went from the similar objects in your post to black and cloudy patches (at first I was so distracted because I thought there were gnats or bugs flying around my periferal). I get a B-12 shot every 2 weeks, have no contact (I am aware of) with chlorine and started exercising more than surfing several times a week to long walks on coast highway and jogging several miles, several times a week. I'm trying to cut back on the sweets :-) 
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fracas
Michael Peterson status
Reged: 03/22/04
Posts: 3016
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Thanks Fracas. The floaters went from the similar objects in your post to black and cloudy patches (at first I was so distracted because I thought there were gnats or bugs flying around my periferal). I get a B-12 shot every 2 weeks, have no contact (I am aware of) with chlorine and started exercising more than surfing several times a week to long walks on coast highway and jogging several miles, several times a week. I'm trying to cut back on the sweets :-)
You're welcome. Yes, when you feed Candida it "blooms". It forms more cells as it sends out new strands. As your body starts clearing blood sugar, attacking mucous membrane candida, and healing your gut walls, candida goes into a dormant state. In this state candida preserves the strands in a shrunken state, and preserves the yeast cell nuclei inside emaciated outer shells.
When you feed that dormant form of candida again, it springs back to life and grows more candida cells. I'm trying to say that candida are tough little buggers. Once infested, you can't get rid of them. You can only control them. Some scientists estimate that 2/3 of westerners are overgrown with candida albicans.
If you stop eating sugar and sweets, then you don't hafta always be trying to cut back. The craving goes away. If you drink tap water, drink drinks made with tap water, or open your eyes in a swimming pool then you're ingesting chlorine. The dosage is low, but accumulated over a lifetime the dosage is prohibitively high.
So most people are saying.... "So you get eye floaters. Compare that with having to do without sweets. I'll take the sweets." Eye floaters can be the least of candida's symptoms. Like all living things, candida eats, drinks, pees and poops. It pees and poops poisons. Some people can deal with the poisons for a long time. Some people get really sick. But the biggest complaint among candida patients is "brain fog".
Mainstream western medicine hasn't established direct cause and effect relationships between most candida-caused maladies and candida.
Three reasons:
1. Most westerners are overrun with candida. There is no control group.
2. Drug companies make money off treating symptoms, not off of telling people to stop enjoying themselves.
3. Doctors work for patients. They get paid to cure patients' symptoms. If eliminating the cause is short and effective, that's what doctors do. If curing the symptom is the fastest route back to health, that's what doctors do. Doctors aren't into determining the cause while their patients languish. ....well most doctors can't get away with doing it twice.
Candida's cause is long term and lifestyle related. It's cure is likewise long term and lifestyle related. You're probably measuring giving up sweets against "brain fog" and having somebody laser the vitreous fluid of your eyes. Good luck
Oh, and start eating plain live yogurt.
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PeteZahut
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Reged: 08/12/05
Posts: 5
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Fracas, on the chlorine topic - I spend a lot of time swimming to stay in shape; is opening your eyes in chlorinated water the only way you ingest chlorine (other than the occasional inevitable mouthful of pool water)? Is being in a closed pool environment exposing yourself to chlorine gas (evaporation of the pool water)?
To my knowledge, no local pools use anything other than chlorine for pool treatment (I once worked at a pool that used bromine, I think?). Wish we had seawater-filled pools like Australia...
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fracas
Michael Peterson status
Reged: 03/22/04
Posts: 3016
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Fracas, on the chlorine topic - I spend a lot of time swimming to stay in shape; is opening your eyes in chlorinated water the only way you ingest chlorine (other than the occasional inevitable mouthful of pool water)? Is being in a closed pool environment exposing yourself to chlorine gas (evaporation of the pool water)?
I searched for a specific British study done about four years ago, but there are too many smaller studies of the effects of inhaling indoor pool chlorine. They all have the same result.
The large British study followed a large sample of kid athletes who practiced and swam in indoor pools. The study found an extremely high incidence of flat-out chlorine lung poisoning, and anextremely high incidence of asthma among the participants compared to the general population.
The chlorine used in the large pool cholrinators evaporates from pool water rapidly, and forms a nasty gas. I think it's sodium tetrachloride, and related chlorine gasses. No expert here, but I think I know this part. Inhaling chlorine gasses damages the lung's alveoli, the lung lining, the cell structure which transfers air oxygen to the blood.
That part of the lungs is guarded by mucous membranes. Secondary infection of the alveoli and membranes will follow, but damaging the lung lining, all by itself, is bad, very bad.
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SurfDoc
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Reged: 12/19/02
Posts: 1728
Loc: Huntington Beach
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Many possible causes of floaters and no great treatments depending on cause of course. You did the right thing by seeing a specialist, two even! Good luck!
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Dumbsquided
Billy Hamilton status
Reged: 11/29/04
Posts: 1671
Loc: Walking a Fine Line.
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I've had mine for about three years now, toooooooooooooooooooo much time in tech theater in high school, staring into 1000-2000w very focused lights yelling "to the left, no right, more, no left...." 
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Enjoy your self, it's later than you think.
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