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Re: Obama in a nutshell
      04/22/08 07:53 AM

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you obviously believe that the wealthy should subsidize the poor, pay for their healthcare, their childcare, their retirement, etc...
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It is the lessons of our past. If we don't pay for retirement via Social Security, care for the elderly costs society much more. It removes paid workers from the job market and forces them into elderly care. Less capital in circulation.

Healthcare? We pay MUCH MORE for healthcare because it is not socialized. In every last country with socialized health care it consumes 7-9% of their GDP. In the USA it consumes 16% of our GDP and rising. Indigent care KILLS us. The problem is that people without health insurance do not engage in prophylaxis. They wait until it gets bad, then they go to the Emergency Room. Then all the people with health insurance pay MUCH MORE for their care. Not to mention the negative impact we receive from improper vaccination coverage.

I don't think you will find many Emergency Room doctors who do not support universal health care coverage for its improvement of indigent care.

Fundamentally, not all people are created equal. And providing a low-level safety net for those who are at times in their lives when they cannot make ends meet is a profit-making strategy for the rest of us - because it costs less to erect a safety net than it does to deal with the people who fall. The real question is how the safety net should be constructed, and how much should it cost...

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* Obama in a nutshell Knuckledragger 04/15/08 07:16 AM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell RbrOutlier   03/11/12 04:50 PM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell john4surf   06/06/08 07:42 AM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell Knuckledragger   06/06/08 09:12 AM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell GetShacked   04/15/08 10:51 AM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell swegin   04/15/08 10:45 AM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell hallucinogenic_toreador   04/15/08 12:31 PM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell GetShacked   04/15/08 01:01 PM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell swegin   04/15/08 01:30 PM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell hallucinogenic_toreador   04/15/08 02:30 PM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell blakestah   04/22/08 07:53 AM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell swegin   04/15/08 03:22 PM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell hallucinogenic_toreador   04/15/08 08:38 PM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell misterhat   04/17/08 07:29 AM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell GetShacked   04/15/08 10:32 PM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell hallucinogenic_toreador   04/17/08 07:08 PM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell blakestah   04/22/08 08:02 AM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell dkennedys11   04/21/08 07:20 PM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell Knuckledragger   04/21/08 07:37 PM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell GetShacked   04/22/08 01:01 PM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell swegin   04/23/08 12:27 PM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell GetShacked   04/23/08 10:21 PM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell Knuckledragger   04/24/08 06:13 PM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell Knuckledragger   04/22/08 03:36 PM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell Kento   04/21/08 09:32 PM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell Knuckledragger   04/22/08 06:16 AM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell Kento   04/22/08 07:27 AM
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. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell Kento   04/22/08 12:23 PM
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. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell Knuckledragger   04/22/08 07:04 PM
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. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell Knuckledragger   04/22/08 07:56 PM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell Kento   04/22/08 08:03 PM
. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell Knuckledragger   04/22/08 08:25 PM
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. * * Re: Obama in a nutshell Knuckledragger   04/15/08 12:11 PM
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