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It's not a quality of surfboard issue, it's a quality of life issue. I love my local shaper. As long as Surftech, Firewire, and GSI are in business, it is my duty as a core participant in my sport and a free human on the face of this Earth to provide info about those companies. The reader or listener can do with it what they want, I don't care. You won't hear me calling someone a kook for owning one. But if they don't know know about our manufacturing industry how can they make an informed choice?

Just be warned that day may come when talking to a shaper is a distant memory. And your next board order will be placed with an outsourced customer service department in India and continued to be made in Thailand unless Mark Price finds a cheaper place to make them.

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has nothing to do with being a sheriff, has to do with this.

my line is clearly drawn, again for you as a special favor - I DO NOT BUY FOREIGN SHAPED BOARDS. FW does not get a pass in my book. In yours they do. I have asked you many times to simply admit that buying FWs damages the BOARD BUILDING industry in your country. You cannot do that for some reason.

Instead,
you keep moving the argument based in order to justify FWs - "make sure your board shorts are made domestically, leashes, oh and make sure all that shapers boards are made domestically."

Why are you interested in the Chum Lee? You already told us it was impossible to get any Aussie shaper to shape you a board comparable to the SP - having one shaped as inspired by his shape is stealing - and it is too expensive to get one shipped over from Dan. Life is tough over there in OZ.

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Your reading comprehension skills truly are appalling.
I didn't say it's impossible to have one shaped in Australia.
Go back and read that on the "other" thread.
What I said was I don't want to have a local shaper "copy" the shape for a number of reasons.
I posted up a shot of my quiver.
Where's yours...?
C'mon show us your machine shaped PU's.
Since I demoed one during the "last" thread I've bought a sweet potato and left one of my "locally shaped" boards on consignment to sell because it will now gather dust because the poatato is better at doing what the "locally shaped" boards does.
I don't mind seeing a pic of the "Chum Lee" as it would be interesting to see how the board differs from the Firewire one.
This is a design forum and I'm interested in the design being discussed not a crusade which is all you are on here for.
The local shaper's are all going to go the way of the Dodo argument all because of Asian made boards is a crock of poop.
Are you scared you'd have to learn to make your own surfboard?
That's a novel idea.
Wouldn't want to do that now though...you'd be contributing to putting a "local" shaper out of business.
Especially if you enjoyed it and started making some for your friends and then selling them in a few shops and....
All the other factors that are changing the "industry" are studiously ignored by those who insist on bashing surfboards made in Asia as the only cause.
So I'll be happy to keep on exposing your hypocritical diatribes that deny freedom of thought and action.
Here's a review of a Sweet potato for anyone who wants to read one.
http://www.dailystoke.com/gear-categorie...pes-technology/
They don't seem to mind that German technology either.
Here's an ASL (Australian surfing life magazine) review with video of a sweet potato being surfed.
http://www.surfinglife.com.au/boardbible/firewire/

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you are hilarious. you still will not admit it. the only thing you have called out is your lack of being able to frame an argument properly.

i already told you, I have 7 hand shaped boards, start to finish, you already tried this one with me. i have 3 with me in the east and (now after picking up a Christenson last week) 4 in socal. i will get you pics if you do not trust me. i am also getting ready to order a log and a spacebar, that will make 9. and, like i told you before, i do own CNC shaped boards. I have never made the CNC argument on this or the other thread.

i never said that buying other asian products was a "good" thing - I only said that those particular portions of the industry are so far gone, it is unlikely to make any difference. the board building industry is not the same.

i mentioned Diverse as being an option for you in OZ. you stated they cannot make you a board with as much volume as the SP without having to glue 2 banks together (so much adversity I cannot stand it). You also stated that you cannot get a shaper to make you a similarly inspired board there in OZ (life is full of adversity). = not plausibe/impossible - however you want to make it out. (and regardless, such difficulty was enough for you to justify your new FW purchase).

now you, in an effort to be core, want badly to honor and support the shaper. You are so core that you will support the shaper, Dan Mann, so long as it makes economic sense to you. I.e. you will not spend the $AUS and buy one from Dan Mann.

As GG said, it would be fun to work with a local shaper to try to develop a SP inspired small wave board, and develop new tech, etc. Read the Coil threads on Sways and here - how do you think they developed their tech? support from domestic surfers. OZ surfers supporting OZ companies/shapers is a good idea right.

I have no idea where or how you came up with your point with respect to me shaping. If I started shaping and selling to friends, then I would become the domestic shaper. If I shaped for myself, I still would not be supporting the Asian board building industry.

Again with the excuses. It really is nuts. You are now a proud FW owner. As I said before, just own it. I have no problem with FW owners. I do have a problem with the uneducated and/or the individual who, rather than simply state the obvious, would rather come up with a dozen excuses in order to justify a position or act.

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