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nightfly Gerry Lopez status Reged: 05/30/04 Posts: 1266 Re: Why Everyone Hates Surftech, and Pop-outs in General       02/04/06 06:55 AM Edit   Reply   Quote   Quick Reply   20 years ago- 1986, Curren vs Occy probably some of the best surfing ever. In 20 years boards have gotten thinner and lighter but has surfing gotten "better", I think that's arguable. More tricks certainly, but better, I don't know. Also if you look at boards from 20 years vs. today, I think you see only very incremental improvements vs. 20 years before that. I bet most surfers of today would be more comfortable and find more rideable a 1986 board, than surfers from 1986 would find a 1966 board. Surfboard development has stagnated over the last 20 years even with custom shapers. I think a better argument could be made for pros shaping their own boards driving the sport from the mid 70's to mid 80s'. Look at what people talk about here- bonzers, twins, quads, etc. People are bored of "modern" surfboards precisiely because they haven't really changed in 20 years so they've gone back to the time when design was more open and started from there. Most people can't really compare a board from 10 years ago vs. today because boards in the mid-90's got so flimsy that they aren't around anymore. Look at many of today's most popular boards, they are throwbacks to the very time you're disparaging. Not an argument for Surftech per say, but definetely an argument for more innovation in surfboard design and more importantly materials. We ride a toxic soup of chemicals and that lasts for a year and takes millions of years to degrade. Post Extras

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